Theory and Analysis Talk:Rei and the Moon

Thanks, Wayne. Will get to this shortly... --UrsusArctos 18:58, 8 February 2008 (PST)

Is this any better? In the old arrangement, images were all over the place...this one might not be the best, but we could explain the images on a case-by-case basis. --UrsusArctos 19:07, 8 February 2008 (PST)

Yeah, that's a lot better. The Imagebox you were using yesterday was leaving a big empty white space on the bottom 2/3 of the screen due to there being too little text. Everything is filled in nicely now. As for the images being all over the place, they looked fine on my computer, but I've had this problem before. Images that display exactly where I want them to on Explorer, go all haywire on other browsers like Foxfire. --thewayneiac 22:42 EST. Feb. 09, 2008

I removed the "Notebox" per V's suggestion, (see User talk:The wayneiac#Image boxes for details). I need some input on how the images are desplaying in Firefox and Safari. In Explorer, I have 3 images across the top of the page, one to the left of the first paragraph, and one to the right of the last paragraph. No image is out of line in Explorer, for instance, in the middle of the text instead of above or adjacent to it. --thewayneiac 22:06 EST. Feb. 10, 2008

Its so bad its unusable on Firefox. I will try something...--V 19:39, 10 February 2008 (PST)

Alright this is more or less the best I can do: on Firefox it looks like two columns on each side of the page's text, and seems fairly serviceable (it's a large number of images for a relatively small amount of text). What does this look like on Internet Explorer? Or, should we make a separate "Images" subsection below the text? (I'm kind of against that). I don't think there's an easy solution. P.S. Look for an image of Rei waking up in the beginning of End of Eva with the moonlight coming through the window onto her, etc. --V 20:23, 10 February 2008 (PST)

Question

Could this article be given a more vague title so the "Asuka and the Sun" stuff that was posted on the forums be included all in one place? (and whatever other planetary associations come up later).

Also, what category does this fall under? Should it be in Religious References or be a part of Theory and Analysis? --(Zugzwang)

"Asuka and the sun", you notice, doesn't last that long. Just the first couple of episodes, mainly, and Asuka's solar association fades away. While Rei was directly involved in the moon's creation- which is why the moon is always shown in regard to her, Asuka is associated with the sun mostly because of her "fiery" personality and her polar opposition to Rei. It's Rei's association and not Asuka's that matters. I think this should be T and A. --UrsusArctos 15:37, 9 February 2008 (PST)

Asuka's association with the sun, which I actually picked up on myself and noted in the "Analysis" section of Episode 08 (I didn't see the forum thread but its an obvious motif so I picked it up independently), is indeed present but not nearly as developed as "Rei and the Moon" and doesn't really "graduate" into full "Theory and Analysis". Yes this is both Theory and Analysis and "Religious reference" I guess (if you consider the Moon religious). "Religious references" is kind of a subset of Theory and Analysis. At any rate, UA is correct: Asuka's association with the Sun is just a visual motif for her fiery personality, and isn't used nearly as often as Rei and the Moon is. Rei and the Moon is a hint about Lilith, and is used pervasively. It does merit mention in the Episode Guide and Asuka pages and such, but there's just not enough to merit a full analysis article. We should make a footnote of it in this "Rei and the Moon" article though, something just like "Asuka is also paired with the Sun, a motif showing how she's the exact opposite of Rei" or somesuch. --V 09:45, 10 February 2008 (PST)

While I agree the Asuka/Sun motif isn't developed nearly to the extent that Rei/Moon is, the Rei/Asuka dichotomy has more thematic relevance than "just showing they're polar opposites". Rei/Asuka also happens to be the choice Shinji is faced with, and this dichotomy is also explored elsewhere (Blue/Red - another subject for T&A when I get around to it). So Rei/Moon, Asuka/Sun just becomes another dichotomic representation of this idea - though Rei/Moon has more significance beyond this as well. --Eva Yojimbo