Talk:Angels

This article needs a little work...

First off, Angels (as Adam's children) might warrant a separate article, since it's technically a different usage of the term. When one talks about them, one is not talking about "Angels" in the broader, somewhat cryptic sense.

Second, I'm not sure where that "legitimate definition" comes from. --Reichu 18:57, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

Splitting the article is unnecessary. We will explain though, the special case of Adam and Lilith. --V 21:48, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

Ursus in History wrote: "arrgh grumble grumble where do I even start off...?"

That's a goooooood question... XD There's a shitload of stuff that needs to be here. It might be worth brainstorming a little over the kind of content we'd like to see on this page, and then come up with an 'attack plan' to make it happen. If I come up with anything while I go about my menial tasks today, I'll post them later. --Reichu 04:28, 2 May 2009 (PDT)

For the lack of anything else, should we have a short description (The opening few sentences of each article) and a table with a list of Angel thumbnails for Sachi through Armi? What is your opinion of putting Kaworu and Rei in a separate subheading called "vessels"? I'll show you the basic layout I have in mind. Change it if it's too much of clutter. --UrsusArctos 17:31, 2 May 2009 (PDT)

Started off the "Angel Table". This one's for Adam's progeny, the SoL and the two vessels shall be kept together separately. --UrsusArctos 17:48, 2 May 2009 (PDT)

(You got in another post by the time I finished this, so... I'll just keep my text as is.)

A table with all the Angels would be useful. I was thinking that SOMEwhere we need to show how the Angel ordinal designations (and whether or not a specific Angel appears, for that matter) varies between the NGE/manga/Rebuild continuities. It would be nice to get it all worked out in a common table before attempting to apply it to the various infoboxes. We don't have ordinals/names for the two newcomers yet, but they can be stuck in there where they'd roughly appear.

Also, there needs to be a basic rundown of the different definitions of "Angel". It's a royal headache, since there's at least, like, four different ways one sees it get used... but we should probably put emphasis on the ones where it refers to either Adam's children, or the one where it refers to "all humans but the first". There's also that whole "ordered Angel list (from 1st to 18th)" that confuses the hell out of people -- "are these the only Angels there are, and does the order they're in mean anything, and...?".

Somewhere, we need some general writeup on 'common characteristics' of Angels (which definition to go by for this, I'm not sure). --Reichu 18:01, 2 May 2009 (PDT)

This Table form is what I was thinking of, yes. I guess we could create a subsection "Defintions of the term "Angel" " and number the different definitions that do exist within the series. Trying to find common characteristics would be a headache. The only directly stated common characteristic between humans as we know them and Angels is their DNA. The entire Fruit of Life/Fruit of Wisdom mess is way too far out for anything definite to be said. --UrsusArctos 20:15, 2 May 2009 (PDT)