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"'''Sequel Theory'''" is the enduringly popular idea that the ''[[Rebuild of Evangelion]]'' films are not a separate continuity, but are instead a follow-up in a more than spiritual sense. In its most basic form, this idea posits that the films occur on Earth after the Third Impact of ''[[End of Evangelion]]''; exact specifics as to how this is supposed to work vary. In its multitudinous more convoluted forms, it would be more accurately described as "Cycle Theory", with NGE and [[Rebuild of Evangelion|NTE]] both being iterations of a cycling universe. This article will not deal with the latter, since said variation isn't really concrete enough to be debunked, and instead concentrate on most of the supposed evidence associated with the idea of ''Rebuild'' being a slightly more literal sequel.
"'''Sequel Theory'''" is the enduringly popular idea that the ''[[Rebuild of Evangelion]]'' films are not a separate continuity, but are instead a follow-up in a more than spiritual sense. In its most basic form, this idea posits that the films occur on Earth after the Third Impact of ''[[End of Evangelion]]''; exact specifics as to how this is supposed to work vary. In its multitudinous more convoluted forms, it would be more accurately described as "Cycle Theory", with NGE and [[Rebuild of Evangelion|NTE]] both being iterations of a cycling universe. This article will not deal with the latter, since said variation isn't really concrete enough to be debated, and instead concentrate on most of the supposed evidence associated with the idea of ''Rebuild'' being a slightly more literal sequel.


==Second Impact... or Third?==
==Second Impact... or Third?==


As soon as fans sat down in Japanese theaters to see ''Evangelion 1.0'', the idea that they were being shown some kind of continuation took seed<ref>[http://forum.evageeks.org/post/87726/Rebuild-10-You-are-not-alone-Reviews-Spoilers/#87726 Anonymous spoiler] posted to /a/ and cross-posted to EvaGeeks Forums, 2007/09/01.</ref>. Since the film was a retelling of the TV series' first six episodes with only minor storytelling variations, why would anyone think it somehow took place ''after'' EoE?  
As soon as fans sat down in Japanese theaters to see ''Evangelion 1.0'', the idea that they were being shown some kind of continuation took seed<ref>[http://forum.evageeks.org/post/87726/Rebuild-10-You-are-not-alone-Reviews-Spoilers/#87726 Anonymous spoiler] posted to /a/ and cross-posted to EvaGeeks Forums, 2007/09/01.</ref>. Since the film was a retelling of the TV series' first six episodes with only minor storytelling variations, why would anyone think it somehow took place ''after'' EoE? Before anything can be debunked, we must first look at what's believed in the first place and why, so... shall we?  


===Blood in the Water===
===Blood in the Water===
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...the bold white outline of a giant humanoid in cruciform position, painted over a blood-stained hillside littered with damaged buildings. For many NGE veteran, this visual immediately recalls the dead Mass Production Evangelions, on account of the general profile and especially the long slender region where a head and neck would be:
This appears to be the bold white outline of a giant humanoid in cruciform position, painted over a blood-stained hillside littered with damaged buildings. For many NGE veterans, the visual immediately recalls the dead [[Mass Production Evangelions]] from EoE, on account of the general profile and especially the long slender region where a head and neck would be:


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|title  = ''End of Evangelion'': Crucified Eva Series
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|image1  = [[File:M26 C371 mp-sun.jpg|300px|thumb|Self-crucified M.P. Evangelion.]]
|image1  = [[File:M26 C371 mp-sun.jpg|300px|thumb|Self-crucified MP Evangelion.]]
|image2  = [[File:M26_C481_Kimochi_Warui.jpg|300px|thumb|Petrified and decapitated M.P. Evas.]]
|image2  = [[File:M26_C481_Kimochi_Warui.jpg|300px|thumb|Petrified and decapitated MP Evas.]]
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The outline in ''1.0'' is more strongly reminiscent of the MP Evas before they petrify and, off-screen, spontaneously undergo decapitation -- but even once this happens the conical entry plug hatches still extend their outlines in approximately the same way. Could this outline in fact be marking where one of the nine dead MP Evas made landfall at the end of EoE?
The outline in ''1.0'' is more strongly reminiscent of the MP Evas before they petrify and, off-screen, spontaneously undergo decapitation -- but even once this happens the conical entry plug hatches still extend their outlines in approximately the same way.  


===Blood on the Moon===
===Blood on the Moon===
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|title  = ''End of Evangelion'': Blood Flies to the Moon
|title  = ''End of Evangelion'': Blood Flies to the Moon
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|image1  = [[File:M26 C386 bloodmoon.jpg|300px|thumb|Blood spouting from Lilith's neck starting to stick to the lunar surface.]]
|image1  = [[File:M26 C386 bloodmoon.jpg|300px|thumb|Blood spouting from Lilith's neck starting to stick to the lunar surface<ref>Paraphrased from the storyboard's description for Cut 386</ref>.]]
|image2  = [[File:M26_C459_moon.jpg|300px|thumb|The final state of the blood stain.]]
|image2  = [[File:M26_C459_moon.jpg|300px|thumb|The final state of the blood stain.]]
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Can audiences even at the time, without benefit of the following two movies<ref>At the time of this article's penning, the fourth has yet to see release.</ref>, be forgiven for thinking that perhaps some kind of partial reset button had been pushed after ''End of Evangelion''? Let's take a look.  
===Kaworu remembers?===
 
Audiences at the time that ''Eva 1.0'' came out, and many even to this day<ref>Summer 2017, at the time of this article's original penning.</ref>, see these visuals and immediately, ''viscerally'' interpret them as hints that the film occurs on the same planet Earth on which ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'' occurred, in the wake of the post-EoE timeline somehow being partly "reset" to starting conditions. While there is no generally accepted reason for why this would have happened in the first place, the blood-red oceans, the outline resembling an MP Eva, and the blood on the moon are all pointed to as clear holdovers from the world before the reset. And then there is this, the sole dialogue from the final scene<ref>''Evangelion 1.11'', custom [[User:Reichu|Reichu]] translation combining aspects of those done by Lolfang & Reito and Funimation with my own tweaks.</ref>:
 
[[File:Eva1-01_C1681_kawomoon.jpg|200px|right]]
{{quote|
'''KAWORU''': I know.
The boy down there's awakened, and
we've entered the general stage of the plan, correct?
 
'''KEEL'''':
That's correct.
The Dead Sea Scroll Apocrypha have been fulfilled up to the Book of Law.
The hour of our covenant draws near.
 
'''KAWORU'''':
The Third again, huh?
You sure haven't changed.
I look forward to seeing you, Ikari Shinji-kun.}}
Here, Kaworu expresses familiarity with Shinji (the Third Boy), while also saying that he looks forward to seeing (or meeting) him. Sequel theory interprets this to mean that Kaworu is yet another holdover from the previous iteration: he knows Shinji from the events of ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]'', but has not yet met him in New Theatrical.
 
Now, as Kaworu's strange familiar remains an aspect of the film series that has not yet been explained, there will be no attempt to address it here. However, we can explore the three other points, since the three released Rebuild films, along with the available supplemental sources, provide sufficient data to reach a fairly solid understanding of what's really going on.
 
==No, It Really is the Second==
 
Regardless of whatever is going on with Kaworu, the remaining "big three" -- which have been rolled out in Internet posts, ready-to-go infographics, and YouTube videos again, and again, and again --  can, with the careful observation that ''Eva'' has always demanded of its audience, be shown to have absolutely nothing to do with the Third Impact that occurred in ''End of Evangelion''. We'll start with the simple and concrete, and work our way up to the more convoluted and weird.
 
===The Moons Don't Match===
 
While both moons have blood-red stains on them, the stains themselves are completely different. This is an observation that can be made as early as ''Eva 1.0'', requiring no clarification from later installments.
 
As seen above, the stain in EoE is gigantic and clearly visible from space.  
 
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When Misato and other Nerv personnel depart from the site of the Fourth Angel's self-destruction In the aftermath of the Fourth Angel's self-destruction, a short scene occurs wherein Misato and some other Nerv personnel To start with, Maya Ibuki makes this comment when she and some other Nerv personnel are ob  
When Misato and other Nerv personnel depart from the site of the Fourth Angel's self-destruction In the aftermath of the Fourth Angel's self-destruction, a short scene occurs wherein Misato and some other Nerv personnel To start with, Maya Ibuki makes this comment when she and some other Nerv personnel are ob  




Could this outline in fact be marking where one of the nine dead MP Evas made landfall at the end of EoE?


In other words, the end of one *Eva* saga At this point, some fans immediately wonder if this *isn't* a separate continuity after all -- otherwise why link the end of EoE to the beginning of the ''Eva'' tale in such an overt way? Was some kind of partial


In other words, the end of one *Eva* saga At this point, some fans immediately wonder if this *isn't* a separate continuity after all -- otherwise why link the end of EoE to the beginning of the ''Eva'' tale in such an overt way? Was some kind of partial
---TEMP ENDS HERE---


==References==
==References==


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Revision as of 01:47, 10 July 2017

"Sequel Theory" is the enduringly popular idea that the Rebuild of Evangelion films are not a separate continuity, but are instead a follow-up in a more than spiritual sense. In its most basic form, this idea posits that the films occur on Earth after the Third Impact of End of Evangelion; exact specifics as to how this is supposed to work vary. In its multitudinous more convoluted forms, it would be more accurately described as "Cycle Theory", with NGE and NTE both being iterations of a cycling universe. This article will not deal with the latter, since said variation isn't really concrete enough to be debated, and instead concentrate on most of the supposed evidence associated with the idea of Rebuild being a slightly more literal sequel.

Second Impact... or Third?

As soon as fans sat down in Japanese theaters to see Evangelion 1.0, the idea that they were being shown some kind of continuation took seed[1]. Since the film was a retelling of the TV series' first six episodes with only minor storytelling variations, why would anyone think it somehow took place after EoE? Before anything can be debunked, we must first look at what's believed in the first place and why, so... shall we?

Blood in the Water

The very first image seen in Eva 1.0.
NGE's final iteration of its recurring waves-on-shore motif, from EoE's last scene.
Tanks waiting for arrival of 4th Angel, Eva 1.0.
Tanks waiting for arrival of 3rd Angel, Episode 01.

We see here that the first shot is a direct callback to EoE's final scene, and the otherwise familiar sights of Episode 01 have been transformed by an ocean that is no longer blue, but blood-red. With brutally efficient use of visuals, the end of the previous Eva sage has been linked to this new one. But why...?

The Mysterious Outline

Amidst the opening montage of images -- the storyboards taken nearly verbatim from Episode 01 -- showing the lingering damage from Second Impact, something new appears...

This appears to be the bold white outline of a giant humanoid in cruciform position, painted over a blood-stained hillside littered with damaged buildings. For many NGE veterans, the visual immediately recalls the dead Mass Production Evangelions from EoE, on account of the general profile and especially the long slender region where a head and neck would be:


End of Evangelion: Crucified Eva Series
Self-crucified MP Evangelion.
Petrified and decapitated MP Evas.

The outline in 1.0 is more strongly reminiscent of the MP Evas before they petrify and, off-screen, spontaneously undergo decapitation -- but even once this happens the conical entry plug hatches still extend their outlines in approximately the same way.

Blood on the Moon

The final scene of the film takes us to Mare Tranquilitatis[2] of the moon, where we can see a long, thin streak of blood-colored fluid soaked into the turf:


Evangelion 1.0: Blood on the Moon
Coffins resting atop the blood streak.
The streak terminates with a curious excavation site...

...which, again, recalls the way NGE ended, rather than how it began:


End of Evangelion: Blood Flies to the Moon
Blood spouting from Lilith's neck starting to stick to the lunar surface[3].
The final state of the blood stain.

Kaworu remembers?

Audiences at the time that Eva 1.0 came out, and many even to this day[4], see these visuals and immediately, viscerally interpret them as hints that the film occurs on the same planet Earth on which Neon Genesis Evangelion occurred, in the wake of the post-EoE timeline somehow being partly "reset" to starting conditions. While there is no generally accepted reason for why this would have happened in the first place, the blood-red oceans, the outline resembling an MP Eva, and the blood on the moon are all pointed to as clear holdovers from the world before the reset. And then there is this, the sole dialogue from the final scene[5]:

KAWORU: I know. The boy down there's awakened, and we've entered the general stage of the plan, correct?

KEEL': That's correct. The Dead Sea Scroll Apocrypha have been fulfilled up to the Book of Law. The hour of our covenant draws near.

KAWORU': The Third again, huh? You sure haven't changed. I look forward to seeing you, Ikari Shinji-kun.

Here, Kaworu expresses familiarity with Shinji (the Third Boy), while also saying that he looks forward to seeing (or meeting) him. Sequel theory interprets this to mean that Kaworu is yet another holdover from the previous iteration: he knows Shinji from the events of Neon Genesis Evangelion, but has not yet met him in New Theatrical.

Now, as Kaworu's strange familiar remains an aspect of the film series that has not yet been explained, there will be no attempt to address it here. However, we can explore the three other points, since the three released Rebuild films, along with the available supplemental sources, provide sufficient data to reach a fairly solid understanding of what's really going on.

No, It Really is the Second

Regardless of whatever is going on with Kaworu, the remaining "big three" -- which have been rolled out in Internet posts, ready-to-go infographics, and YouTube videos again, and again, and again -- can, with the careful observation that Eva has always demanded of its audience, be shown to have absolutely nothing to do with the Third Impact that occurred in End of Evangelion. We'll start with the simple and concrete, and work our way up to the more convoluted and weird.

The Moons Don't Match

While both moons have blood-red stains on them, the stains themselves are completely different. This is an observation that can be made as early as Eva 1.0, requiring no clarification from later installments.

As seen above, the stain in EoE is gigantic and clearly visible from space.

---TEMP STARTS HERE---

When Misato and other Nerv personnel depart from the site of the Fourth Angel's self-destruction In the aftermath of the Fourth Angel's self-destruction, a short scene occurs wherein Misato and some other Nerv personnel To start with, Maya Ibuki makes this comment when she and some other Nerv personnel are ob


Could this outline in fact be marking where one of the nine dead MP Evas made landfall at the end of EoE?

In other words, the end of one *Eva* saga At this point, some fans immediately wonder if this *isn't* a separate continuity after all -- otherwise why link the end of EoE to the beginning of the Eva tale in such an overt way? Was some kind of partial

---TEMP ENDS HERE---

References

  1. Anonymous spoiler posted to /a/ and cross-posted to EvaGeeks Forums, 2007/09/01.
  2. Explanation of Evangelion 1.01.
  3. Paraphrased from the storyboard's description for Cut 386
  4. Summer 2017, at the time of this article's original penning.
  5. Evangelion 1.11, custom Reichu translation combining aspects of those done by Lolfang & Reito and Funimation with my own tweaks.