Evangelion 3.0+1.0 Assorted Translations

Evangelion New Theatrical Edition: 3.0+1.0 Records Collection became available at the theatrical release of Evangelion: 3.0 + 1.0 Thrice Upon a Time. It features final character and mecha designs from the film, cast interviews and theatrical posters.

Please note most of these translations are early and are likely to get revised. Many interviews are still undergoing translation.

See also: Resources:Evangelion Q Records Collection

Interviews

Megumi Ogata as Shinji Ikari

Translation: Pluto

On July 6, 2019, when the video of Avant 1 was announced, Ms. Ogata participated in the Japan EXPO in Paris, France.

In Paris, I was given a great role. About three weeks before, I was suddenly asked to fly to Paris. I adjusted my schedule and managed to get there, but I was the only one on the last minute flight. Others took an early flight to prepare for the show, but I flew on a midnight flight the day before the show, arrived in Paris at 4AM early in the morning that day, and left my luggage at the hotel. It was a super-forced schedule to go to [the place where the expo was held]. At that time, I was asked, "Ms. Ogata, I'm really sorry, but would you please bring the completed video to be played simultaneously all over the world?" Even though I was the last one, I wasn't worried that I had such a big role. For example, if you fell in the bathroom, you wouldn't apologize to the entire world.

If that’s the case you’re ready to say, "There are two parts to being a manager. Please bring a spare for Ms. Ogata." As expected, I’m ready. (laughs). "I have to do this. I brought it to France” and I said that “I shouldn't run away” (in Shinji's voice). I think I apologized with the manager for the other animations, saying," I can't bear that heavy of a responsibility. "However, the production team of Evangelion knew that it would be a trial and error process until the very end, and they thought that “if Ogata loses it, that's it.”(laughs). No, I can't afford to be spoiled, but if I thought about it, I was likely to be crushed by the pressure. I've been associated with "Eva" for the last 25 years, but it wasn't difficult (laughs). For 25 years, I experienced something that I couldn't experience anywhere else, but every time I talk about [Eva], all the other animation producers turn around and say, "No way? Is that true!?" (Laughs)

––What was it like to directly see the reactions of the audience in Paris?

All the overseas fans are passionate. We were enthusiastically welcomed by everyone in Paris. However, the difficult thing is that I talk through an interpreter overseas, so there is a delay between when I talk and getting it to everyone. In Paris, there was an online broadcast, so Japanese people would understand as soon as I spoke, but since it was live in Paris, it took a long time for the reaction to come back, even while thinking ”Is this okay for a show?” I was also able to do it.

––Was that the first time you saw the video?

I could only see a little bit. The Eiffel Tower was shown a lot. Anyway, it was amazing. Rather than the content, instead, I was really relieved that [the video] was delivered safely (laughs).

––How did you feel when you first read the script?

It was a long time ago that I read the script for the first time. I mean, I wanted to read in advance the scenario in the pre-planning stage before it became a completed script. That's something I've never done before ... Suddenly in the winter of 2018, Mr. Khara contacted me saying "I would like to talk about the scenario." It was the first time I was told such a thing. Voice actors rarely participate in the scenario development stage at the animation studio. Evangelion, especially, is a work that expresses the inner world of director Anno, so in the scenario meeting, I wondered what it would be like to be called on by him. I received a preliminary scenario that said, "I want you to read it when you attend the meeting," I nervously read it, and somehow I understood. Then, when I finally attended the meeting, the first thing Anno said was “I want to hear your opinion on what to do to bring back Shinji who can’t speak anymore at the end of Q”. So I asked, "Why did you ask me that in the first place!?" I don't know if it was instrumental at that time or what it meant, but he said, "Among the members of this meeting only Todoroki (Ikki) and you understand Shinji's feelings”. (laughs). So I had a little discussion with the staff about how Shinji would act.

––What did Ogata think about Shinji's comeback?

I thought that his conduct was not important and that whatever Shinji's feelings were drawn, it would work. In addition, the result of saying "If anything, this is it" has led to the depiction of some of Shinji in Part A. As an aside, after a very responsible meeting, everyone went out to eat and took a picture there. Then Anno uploaded our first “two-shot” picture I took with him the following new year's. [Two shot picture: a photograph of two people, usu. male and female] By going through that process, when I received the completed script, I knew the rough content a little earlier than everyone else in the cast.

––Did the content that you read the earlier change in the final script?

I just read it roughly, so I knew what had changed and what hadn't changed. In the first place, I didn't really see the scenario during the review stage, and I was worried that if there was a difference in the final draft after provisionally reading it, there would be a problem if it influenced my performance. I read it as if I borrowed it for a meeting, and sealed it away after that.

––How did you feel when the voice recording started?

First of all, do you have multiple scripts? I was surprised that it was the final volume. In the end, there were four parts, but at first I received two volumes, Avant and the A and B Part. The B part is very light and I thought it was like a doujinshi (laughs). The A and B parts were recorded in early 2019. At first, I recorded the A part with Kensuke (Iwanaga Judgment) and Asuka (Yuko Miyamura), but at a relatively early stage, as usual, by like, Take 30 we began to attack it intensely.

––Did Ms. Ogata have to do any retakes?

There weren't many Shinji lines in Part A, and there were many reaction ad-libs (expressions such as breathing) such as "ha" and "fu", so there weren’t many retakes. I sometimes got out of the booth and waited for the other actors to finish. I didn’t talk but I watched the two performances because I thought it would be difficult for them to do it. The C and D parts in the latter half have more lines in the performance, but I think that it was almost like recording by myself throughout the whole story, not with everyone. However, in the latter part, I was told that "Gendou and Shinji want to record together," and I did it with Fumihiko Tachiki. But at that time, when it was Mr. Tachiki’s turn to record, he recorded many takes over and over again, so I waited once more, and in the end, after our recording time was finished for the day, on the way home, I went to drink with Mr. Anno and all the main staff came. "I drank with my dad (in Shinji's voice)" (laughs)

––Were there any diagrams (illustrations) when you were recording alone?

What do you mean? I don’t know but...In any case, at the stage of recording the latter part, it was said that all of Shinji’s parts would be finished recording, except for the scenes that involve Gendo. After all, as I said, the interaction with Gendou was limited to the first few pages.

––Isn't Shinji so special?

I felt that this time Shinji played a major supporting role. In the final act, the conflicts of various characters are drawn abundantly and Shinji as a major supporting character in his line interjects by saying, “So how was it?”Is it a position like "another Shinji" that often appeared in the TV series? Often, when Shinji A shouted, "What the!?", Shinji B replied, "What does that mean? Do you think you're bad?" This time, only B (who asks) feels, and it is not Shinji who is expressing his thoughts but Gendou and Asuka. In that sense, after previously completing the story of Gendou and Asuka, maybe I wanted Shinji to speak with objectivity. This is just a guess.

––Wasn't it difficult to perform by yourself?

To be honest, I like to perform with people rather than acting alone. Obviously, it's best to perform live together. It's more fun to perform together than alone. It’s because [it’s something that] can only be created in the moment. As expected, I don't say the lines without listening to the previous lines, but I perform while listening to the voices recorded by everyone else in advance, but I think it's different from performing together in a scene. But, well, it's a work that has been done for as long as 25 years, and I think the first thing is to be able to do what the executive director wants to do. Since the actors are all veterans, I felt that they were talking with an awareness along the lines of "Ogata would say something like this."

Although it was recorded separately, it seems that everyone formed a LINE group and solidified their unity. I made it when a lot of actors unexpectedly came to the New Year's party hosted by Mr. Khara on New Year's Day 2019. It’s always busy at the launch of [a new] "Eva”, so the actors don't get together so much, but at that time, a lot of people gathered, so I created a LINE group as a contact network. At first, when I made it, I thought that everyone wouldn't actively send messages, but surprisingly, there were many people who reported on their activities. Even during the recording sessions, they would say, "I'm going to record today." Good luck! " Because we bought a lot of Eva LINE stamps, we used the stamps to say "Good luck" (laughs). It's a pity that the picture alone doesn't show up. There are many Eva stamps but unfortunately, there aren’t many “boy stamps”.

––How did you feel about meeting your old colleagues who took a year to live again in this world?

I already experienced the surprise that my acquaintances are getting older before I knew it in “Q”. At first, Shinji couldn't understand the current situation in "Q". Asuka has the same face, but why did she get scared so suddenly? Misato and her crew feel like they're getting older, but he doesn’t understand what they're saying. Black plugsuit Rei Ayanami helped him, but what can I say? And so on, there were only such questions. The reason he finally realized the current situation was when Kaoru showed Shinji the devastated scenery, saying, "This is what you did." After that, Shinji was extremely depressed ……….

––In the "Q" pamphlet, Ms. Ogata's thoughts at that time were spelled out.

During the second half of "Q" Shinji rushed just for the hope that he might return to his original state if only those spears were pulled out. As a result, his friend died in front of him and he lost his will to speak. In short, in "Q", Shinji was informed that the situation has drastically changed, but in the A part of "Shin", in the part where Shinji cannot speak, it took time for Shinji to be able to slowly understand and comprehend that 14 years had passed. That said, as I said earlier, I have never spoken about the scenes where Shinji is silent, and I haven't seen any pictures, so at this point, I've only imagined what it looks like by reading the script. When I recorded the A part, there were almost no images yet ... With normal dubbing, by actually listening to the exchanges in the previous scenes, the emotions of various people come out, and I myself can act after being moved by them. I didn't have that this time, and I had no choice but to fill in my emotions only from my imagination, so I'm still not sure if I'm performing properly, but I believe in the executive director who gave me the OK! (Laughs)

––How did you interpret the feeling of returning to the Wunder?

Overall, Shinji was kind of lonely or perhaps I should say I think Shinji manufactured a world inside his heart that he fell into where only he was left behind. Everyone is his friend, but they’re not the same friends, right? Although he treats everyone the same as before, from Shinji's point of view, they are no longer the same friends as he was back then. Everyone has been accumulating experiences for the past 14 years, and each has a different family or has put themselves in a new living environment. In short, everyone has grown up. So, they’re not the same as him anymore. The reality is that he is only 14 years old and can't return to the same place as everyone else, he is in the midst of despair, yet one step to live again in this world is to return to the Wunder. I think it was the choice to go back there. I think it's gradually becoming possible for him to swallow and accept the situation he was placed into.

–– How did you feel in your performance when Asuka told you that she had grown up first?

I know how Asuka feels. For example, when I met a classmate at a class reunion, I had grown 14 years older, and although I was 14 years older and had various life experiences in those 14 years, the boy I liked at that time [in junior high school] remained a junior high school student, both emotionally and physically, and was an adult. If you haven't grown up at all, you won't feel like you used to. I think the other boy is the same [as Shinji] as what I’m talking about.

––You really read the script thoroughly, didn’t you?

Rather than reading the script thoroughly, it's more like a long accumulation [of experience]. In the last scene of "2.0", I was so tired from recording the scene where Shinji saved Ayanami that I couldn't move, so I sat down on the floor of the studio. Then Anno-san jumped in and came into the studio with me. He sat down on the floor and took my hand and said, "Thank you for adding your experience to Shinji while still maintaining the heart of a 14 year old." He said, "You managed to do it because you haven't let go of your 14-year-old heart." I was really happy [that he said that]. Then, with "Q", [Anno said,] "This time, everyone around you has grown up. What I want you to do is to show your own loneliness of being left behind with a 14-year-old heart in this film." "If you keep feeling like when you were 14 years old, you [Ogata] personally should have a sense of discomfort with others and a feeling of loneliness that only you can fall into, so please act with that in mind." In "Shin", if anything I noticed that if I was alone, then, with this, what should be done becomes an exploration on what I should do in my own way as Shinji acts. I think that is also the part that is familiar to me now. There is a stereotypical way of thinking that "adults should be like this", especially Japanese people tend to think and say that. He has a strong sense of conformity and tends to impose things like "shouldn't it be like this" and "shouldn’t be like this for members of society", and excludes other people. When I realize that "everyone around me may be different from me," I also go through the process of finding where I should be.

––It's been 25 years since you've performed that type of role where you’ve included your inner self. Miyamura, who plays Asuka, said in an interview earlier, "Ms. Ogata, thank you very much for your hard work."

Like Shinji, I think Miyamura became Asuka because it was her. Twenty-five years ago, she was still a voice actor, and although she doesn't know it, I think she performed with her body, which was the basis of Asuka. Of course, not only Miyamura, but everyone else, I think it's a rare work in which the individuality and experiences [of the performers] are projected into their roles. I wonder if we were the "chosen children" (laughs).

––Ms. Ogata, please tell us the lines that you were most impressed with this time.

I don't really think about the lines because they just come out, but the additional line that was suddenly given to me at the time of the last recording, "Goodbye, all of Evangelion" [stood out]. I was surprised by that. I was told, "Goodbye to your current feelings," and I did it several times while thinking "Um." Gradually, I didn't know if Shinji was saying it or Megumi Ogata was saying it. When I asked, "Which will you use in the end?", I was told, "I'll decide later because they’re all good", so I don't know which [take] will be included until I see the finished product (laughs).

––Looking back on 25 years, how do you feel now?

Thankfully, I was fortunate enough to have many hits in the 90's, including "Eva". Currently, in addition to "Eva", there are series from the 90's that continue to make new works such as "Cardcaptor Sakura" and "Yu Yu Hakusho", and not only animation but also apps and games are attached to them. Many collaboration products were also made. Among them, "Eva" has continued for 25 years, although there [were times when a new Eva series wasn’t being made], above all, I continued to be involved as the main character the whole time. I'm really grateful that I was able to come into contact with such a work. How many actors can have such an experience, leaving a character that can only be projected onto their own life? I really appreciate it.

––To that extent Shinji and yourself are connected?

I don't think my acting is particularly good ... I don’t think I’m suitable as an actress in terms of my personality. Previously, when I made my second animation, "Glass Mask", I played the role of the main character, Kitajima Maya. Maya is an actor who "wears a thousand masks", but I want to be an actor who "removes masks" rather than an actor who "wears a mask". If you have a thousand pieces of armor that you have worn, then peel off a thousand pieces. Everyone is acting = wearing armor and living. But it's difficult to remove it at the right time. I want to be an actor who can convey that. You can peel it off at any time. All ages and genders can be transcended. I have thought that there is no value as an actor other than being myself. Even if the people around me grow up, I can stay 14 years old... I almost backed down many times, but fortunately, I was praised in the "new movie version" for "holding on well", and for the first time I thought "I'm glad I’m an actor". Of course, I also love other works, but maybe I was able to become a voice actor to do "Evangelion"... I don't know what it is, but I think I was able to come this far because I was able to do it with a power that cannot be seen.

Knowing that it is misunderstood, "Evangelion" itself is like another life of mine. So, at the same time as it is incredible at the end, it is strange to say "somehow it does not end", but it is a complete work, and since there is a large part that links the role to myself, as long as I am alive, I feel like I will continue to live in the story of "Evangelion". Someday, when I'm asked if "I'm going to do another world beyond the final edition, but can I still be 14 years old?", I want to be able to say "I'll do it" without hesitation. I wish I could stay as an actor who can play the heart of a 14 year old until I die.

Yuko Miyamura as Asuka Langley Shikinami

Translation: Pluto

I've always wanted Asuka to be happy.

--You've performed Asuka for 25 years. Now that the recording of the concluding chapter in the series is finished, are you having thoughts about all kinds of different feelings?

Thoughts of all kinds of different feelings ... I haven't had them yet ... because there are still some parts that remain to be recorded. However, this time, from beginning to end, I had warm feelings. That's because this time, the cast members made a LINE group, and those who had finished their recordings reported, "It's over today!" in order. Since "Eva" is recorded separately, there are few opportunities to be in scenes together, so we communicated with each other. In this way, and every time someone finished, we all sent out stamps clapping "Congratulations". I'm really reserved on LINE, and I just send stamps in the [part of the conversation] where everyone is talking, but when I was mostly finished, I gently reported to everyone that it was over. I'm glad that technology has evolved dramatically since the TV series started 25 years ago, and it has become possible to [share warm feelings among the group] even when they are far away.

--What were your candid thoughts when you first received the script?

First, when the A part came in, I reread the script of " Q" and remembered "Ah, so that was it," and then read the script. I recorded the A part and the B part together and after that, I think maybe I got the script for the C and D parts.

--Asuka appears equally from the A to the D part. What do you think about Asuka this time?

I think everyone who has seen "Eva" up until now will understand. Throughout the entire series, I’ve felt sorry for Asuka. I have been worried about this for a long time. Even though I do my best. Because I always suffer and feel sorry [for Asuka] , I've been hoping for a long time that her ending would be happy. I want everyone to imagine Asuka's happiness in the future for me. Everyone, I leave Asuka’s happiness to each and every one of you!

--In any case, I think it seems that one possibility of happiness was depicted.

Because [Asuka] is like a daughter to me, [I was thinking] “Kensuke, you bastard, I didn’t realize it!” I was surprised that Asuka suddenly became close to Kensuke without any lead up to it. For example, Kensuke shoots a video of Asuka when she is facing the other direction*. In this scene [I was thinking], “what’s going on here?” I wanted to put a clever comeback in this scene (Laughs). Asuka also entered Kensuke's room and played games without permission**.

• This is the scene where Kensuke has his video camera and is recording the docking of the Wunder in the third village. Kensuke points his camera at her and she’s like: don’t point that camera at me!
  • This is a cultural thing

--After understanding your relation to Kensuke, did the nuance of your [young dry] voice change?

But that's not the case for Asuka. Regarding Shinji’s condition and her role in Wille, she has many problems. When Misato says "Asuka please [pilot the Eva]", she must immediately launch. "This crappy organization! I'm forced to do everything! It’s only me and Mari [who do all the work]!" (In Asuka's tone). While surely being frustrated, she also has the resignation to not grow up as a child. By now, Asuka has no other option but to fight hard.

--You mentioned in the “Q” pamphlet that you performed "like a mercenary or a military commander".

That's right. I was fighting and thinking that I was a professional soldier. I don't know what Misato thinks or knows and at any rate, I have to obey her orders. When you are told to "protect [something]", you protect it. When you are told to "recapture [something]", you recapture it.

Every day, I was in a situation where I had no choice but to do it, and I think I was happy with the warmth of Kensuke (laughs). I've said a lot, but I was very happy when I was recording my scenes with Kensuke. The reason is that the Kensuke that I can see, who seems to have been abruptly thrust into a heavy burden, was gracious and trying very hard to support her. Mr. Iwanaga, who played the role of Kensuke, said a lot, "I'm doing my best to rescue Asuka! Can this make Asuka happy?”, so I thought, "I'm glad that Kensuke was so concerned about Asuka." However, before, when I played the heroine in another work, I also thought that I would be connected to the main character because she was the heroine, but sometimes the main character was taken by a character that appeared in the middle of the series. This time too……. I thought that there weren't many roles like that in terms of cause and effect (laughs).

The only thing I could figure out is that Gendou is selfish (laughs).

--How was the scene where you met Asuka's original, the former Asuka, face-to-face?

I recorded some of Asuka’s lines as an adult and as a villain, but I didn't know which one to use in the end. When it comes to Asuka's feelings, “Original” Asuka’s existence is one that I definitely do not want to get on the side of, but for Yuko Miyamura, up until now, she has been pecked by something like a bird, stabbed by a spear, or as if I turned into a messy pile of meat. Compared to being attacked (laughs), I thought it was welcome because it was a very beautiful impression.

--Both Rei and Asuka are said to have been "prepared from the beginning" by Gendo.

Still, I don't think Asuka is in control! Even so, that's not true...I tried to say that, but I don't know for sure. However, I just thought, "That’s it, that’s it, Gendou is selfish" (laughs). It's like, "What are you talking about, Gendo!? What do you know!?" This selfishness has involved the world! I wonder if I understand Gendo. It's very troublesome to other human beings. Isn’t it? Good grief. What do you think of Gendou? Isn't he extremely selfish? (shouts)

--Ms. Miyamura is still passionately shouting and Asuka has been screaming fiercely in every series.

To that extent, do I think “Asuka screaming” is “Eva”? She sure does scream. This time I shouted with Mari, not with Shinji. At the time of the recording of the screaming, the picture was not completed yet, so I imagined scenes from the stage directions and listened to the director’s explanations for the scenes and heard "It hurts" or "It's passionate" at that time I tried my best to feel it. While being told, "It doesn't hurt yet" ... At that time--this time, we weren't together and I remember Ms. Ogata's moral support. Because Shinji also had the same painful experience, there were a lot of screaming scenes (laughs), [Ogata] gave me motivation and I screamed.

--This time, I was surprised because you suddenly pulled out a sealing pillar from your left eye. How was it for you when you saw that image?

I pulled it out, didn’t I? It seems painful! There have been times when something pierced me, but I thought, "this time I’m pulling it out?" (laughs). At the time of "2.0", I knew there was a theory that I became an angel from all the fan speculations. I started dubbing after seeing everyone's speculations (laughs).

--Wasn't there any explanation from the directors?

There was an explanation from the directors before the recording, “I see” I said and understood the theory, but it is difficult because I’ve never personally had a [angel] sealing pillar or spear stabbed [in my eye] (laughs). But when an actor says "I can't do [something] because I've never done it", it's over. So, I used all of my imagination and I pretended to stab my body. I understand that it corresponds to pain when I pull [the sealing pillar] out. I imagine that it's like peeling off flesh while you’re doing it. Anno and Tsurumaki had detailed criticisms and asked me for more realism. "It feels like something really hot is coming out." Humans usually feel the heat at about 43°C in the bath (laughs), and that's not enough, so imagine how hot it is. But even though I asked "How [hot] was it?" I don't remember. In my performance, I'm 100% desperate and I can't hold on to [these feelings] and live my daily life. So when the recording was finished and I left the studio, I tried to forget everything.

--Don’t you worry about damaging your throat? Do you perform in a somewhat controlled way?

That won’t happen because my schedule for "Eva" is open (laughs). In the case of "Eva", I am fully prepared to push myself to the limit so the scheduling and health care are perfect. Moreover, I exerted myself this time as well and [my voice] was completely flawless. Apart from that, I might be talking the whole time. When I shouted, "Yes, OK, now the next cut," I said to myself, "Even if you do your best as Asuka, you won't be rewarded next time!" Even if Asuka does her best by saying, “I'll do something about it!”, I'll fall into a trap next time, won’t I?" That's Yuko Miyamura’s “meta-speech”, but when I do Asuka, I become Asuka and perform as Asuka, but if I don't put in a comeback line like that, I will feel bad about Asuka’s loneliness.

Everyone is like war buddies who have been together for 25 years.

--You say you used to like Shinji. What was that exchange like?

Unfortunately, I haven't interacted with Ms. Ogata. Ms. Ogata said that she would after recording. In the part before Part A, Shinji was still like an invalid no matter what he did. When he realized that 14 years have passed and such a thing happened to Kaoru-kun in front of him, I think I felt sorry for Shinji because he’s depressed and there’s nothing he can do. The only thing Asuka can say is “Do the best you can."Asuka is doing her personal best, so she can tell other people to do their best.That's why I wanted Shinji to wake up and say, "I'll do my best," but I guess she felt like she couldn't reach Shinji no matter what she said. Asuka's effort is not rewarded. [When Asuka says,] “You are too mentally weak,” she blame’s Shinji. When I performed this line of Asuka’s, I really almost cried. In the 14 years of effort Asuka has accumulated, by saying this, I didn’t expect Shinji to do anything about it but she was unable to say what she wanted. But, in this way, thanks to saying what she wanted, I have a feeling that Asuka was able to progress.

--For Ms. Miyamura, Asuka’s peak is in Part A.

I didn't precisely say what I clearly liked there and I guess I went ahead and said it at the end. In the A Part, I didn't say "I liked you," but I felt like I had already made a break in my feelings for Shinji.

--In performing Asuka for the first time in 8 years with various things coming to an end, did you feel a weight off of your shoulders as an actress?

Yes, I feel like a weight off of my shoulders has been lifted. Executive director Anno said, "I'm glad Asuka was Miyamura" when my screen time was over.In fact, not only me, but the cast, staff, and everyone involved was good. So the executive director faced this work with thanks by saying to everyone, "I'm glad you were in this cast" and "I'm glad you were in this staff." I think so too. It’s because everyone is like a war buddy who have been together for 25 years and avoided the verge of death. I think I said to all members, “Good work. Well done, everyone!” Above all, I personally want to say that to Ms. Ogata. Ms. Ogata, that was really good work! I definitely want to participate if there is a cast party. Now that I'm back in Japan, I want to go to the cast party.

--Finally, the way Asuka says "Baka Shinji". How did you come up with this?

This was also a storyboard shot, so I think I was shown a picture of Asuka's appearance at that time and performed it with that impression. That "Baka Shinji" is just a love letter to the people who have supported Shinji x Asuka!

--Lastly, what is happiness for Yuko Miyamura?

Happiness? I want someone to tell me too (laughs). It's difficult. Hmmm. But conversely, I would like to ask you something. Each character went in their own direction, and on the other hand, I think the audience may sense it too. "Was your happiness inside this [work]?"