Talk:Zeruel

Initial Bout

You know, I never noticed before that Zeruel's face got impaled on Eva 01's horn; the shot was kind of dark. Then again, it's not bleeding or anything, so maybe there's a big hollow cavity inside the face plate and it didn't really do a lot of damage (it's not like we see eyes or anything)...--V 09:09, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

Eva Commentary took at look at the scene where Zeruel is sliced up by Shogoki- from the looks of it, something invisible shoots down the arm and even knocks the A.T.Field out of alignment before slicing through him.

On an additional note, I have a bone to pick with the S2-core theory- Zer is sliced above the core, and Shogoki eats (Or at least bites) his head as well. I have to see it again, but I seriously think that the S2 isn't in the core after all...but that's for elsewhere.--UrsusArctos 10:11, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

Duh, here it is! http://www.evacommentary.org/episode-19/episode-19B-scene12A.html

I interpret it as whatever Shogoki did that sliced Zeruel, not the flying shards.--UrsusArctos 10:43, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

I asked Reichu on the Core thing, and just repeated what she said. Yeah, that's for elsewhere and another time, though. On the "to do" list...Anyway, yes, the freezeframe shows that Zeruel's remaining arm is intact...well, all of it is off to one side, when "something else" is tearing up its main body. Of course, there's always the question of "did they just animate this sequence badly and not fix their mistake"? but I'll just drop that and trust what's on-screen. Yeah, the evidence is all there, change it back. --V 20:23, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

Sachi didn't take that many blasts to get through- it was Zer who was shooting all over the place. Even after the multiple shots, there still was one armor plate left(Aoba says that distinctly), and Sachiel actually was doing the same thing-shooting all over the place in the same sort of way. You can see Sachiel's X-blast penetrate into the Geofront itself, something that Zeruel actually doesn't do.

As an aside, I don't even think Hyuga is there in the second episode when Sachi and Zer are going against each other, or did he not realize that the Geofront Armor had been broken through? The fact that Sachiel can't fly except for a short distance must have slowed him down a bit when he was searching for an entry.

Sachiel's weapon is actually as nasty as Zeruel's...although Eva 01 seems to have used its A.T. Field to block that. The A.T.F. wasn't up in those confined spaces, or else even Zeruel's blasts might've been stopped. --UrsusArctos 21:48, 9 August 2007 (EDT)

Sachiel's energy weapon is not as powerful as Zeruel's. --V 22:09, 9 August 2007 (EDT)

Thumbnailing

@V: I intentionally didn't create a thumbnail of the "fists" production drawing. I'm fetching various screenies, etc., to illustrate various points highlighted in the writeup -- far too many to feasibly include thumbnails of, barring a spacious gallery or something. What are your thoughts? --Reichu 11:38, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

Actually I envisioned the Angel and Eva pages being filled with lots of pics of Angels and Evas. Or underneath "Notes" and "Analysis" there could just be an "Images" section; but I wouldn't want to put them on a separate page. For now, though, until there are far too many images, inserting thumbnails is the best cure for the "wall of text" problem; jazzes up the article, etc. I'm in "cross that bridge when we get to it" mode. --V 11:41, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

"Lots" meaning "whenever they serve to illustrate a point", hopefully. In Zeruel's case, for instance, I'm going to fetch: "accordion arms"; Zeruel's arms at maximum observed length (after chopping off Nigouki's arms); Zeruel using his "hand" to grab Sho's head; the sinewy "neck"; four blasts at the same time; and, well, you get the idea...

In the absense of thumbnails in the immediate vicinity, I kind of like having image links directly following the points they're meant to illustrate. Reinforces the sense of purpose. --Reichu 11:50, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

We can fidget them around later; linking to them is fine for now. Of course, my whole view is "A guy from Weta Digital should be able to read this page and now even the tiniest detail about an Angel's design, so they damn well better get it right"--V 12:09, 13 August 2007 (EDT)