FGC:Episode 02 Cut 135

From EvaWiki
Revision as of 00:47, 11 December 2010 by The wayneiac (talk | contribs)
(diff) ← Older revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)
Jump to navigation Jump to search


Screenshots Cut # Description/Dialogue Commentary

135
She raises a finger.

Misato:“…so you can take advantage of everything here.”

Reichu: In ADV's original (Collection) subtitles, they appended "except me" to Misato's line. Somehow, that seemed more appropriate to the reaction Shinji gives…


thewayneiac: Probably in their original translation, they just didn't want to go there, so they went out of their way to make it look as if she weren't implying anything. But, as I said in 128, I think she is deliberately flirting with him here. Plus, they thought it made it funnier. The way things turned out, they were probably right to eliminate this change.


Shin-seiki: Yeah, and they really "didn't want to go there" in #23… It's annoying, to say the least, how ADV managed to obscure the whole meaning of scenes with their fast and loose translation, but, fortunately, the revised translation on Platinum largely makes up for this.


Incisivis: Adding "except me", when it seems to contradict the changes ADV made to the script later (though I still say that's also a matter of what you're prepared to interpret, as much as what's directly said), might have been done because the Greenfield and others thought Misato really was joking at this point. It's an easy mistake to make, I think.

Look at it this way: Many non-EVA fans think Shinji is simply "getting lucky" by living with Misato, and so do Toji and Kensuke, echoing that presumption that an older woman paying attention to a younger man is perceived as "flattering" to the man, or at least harmlessly comic. It probably has to do with the views on men and women and age differences, which I won't get into here.


Soluzar: Indeed, I can't visualise many boys of Shinji's age reacting in the way that he does! :-) A decent proportion of lads his age would think of Misato as the perfect roomie. The more I watch this series, the more I realise how strange of a character Misato is. I just can't see a woman of her age being that way towards a 14-year-old boy in real life.


Incisivis: If the sexes in the Shinji/Misato situation had been reversed, it would have been a lot harder for the Japanese to get the early-ep comedy out of it, and ADV might not have been so flippant, for several reasons. Among them, pedophiliac relationships where the male is the abuser have greater precedent, so right from the start it'd be very hard to see it as "innocent" if it weren't immediately presented as another "dirty-old-man" joke. Secondly, most people seem to expect the man to be the "dominant" one in a relationship. The male is always going to be able to say no, going to want sex, and can't be violated by a woman, no matter the age difference.


Hexon.Arq: I think she may be trying to act Shinji's age rather than her own. This part of her life was marred, as we will see, and this particular means of quelling her loneliness may be born as a form of compensation to herself for this loss of age as well as an attempt to evoke the kind of spirit that a boy of is age "ought" to have. Her character evolution would be viewable as almost absurdly drastic if this weren't a good-natured facade.