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==Mari's relationship with Fuyutsuki, Yui and Gendo== | ==Mari's relationship with Fuyutsuki, Yui and Gendo== | ||
[[File:OMG Mari MP4.jpg|150px|thumb|In the right, there is a person that looks like Mari|right]] | [[File:OMG Mari MP4.jpg|150px|thumb|In the right, there is a person that looks like Mari|right]] | ||
In a scene in [[Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo]] where Shinji and Kozo are playing Shogi, Kozo tell Shinji that if he missed [[Yui Ikari|her mom]], to which Shinji replies that he don't, then Kozo showed a photo of Shinji (as a baby), Yui and other people around her. Interestingly, it had a person that looked like Mari, which may implied that it was her. However, it was shown that her hair is brighter in the photo and didn't wear a headband. So it's unknown that it was her or soomeone else. However, it is that this is not an only time we see strange connections between them. In many scenes of [[Mari refers to Gendo as "Gendo-kun". Interestingly, "kun" is used for younger man but it also used for a person with the same age. In Gendo's flashback, we see "Mari" with Gendo. She also introduced Fuyutsuki and Yui and they got along with each other. | In a scene in [[Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo]] where Shinji and Kozo are playing Shogi, Kozo tell Shinji that if he missed [[Yui Ikari|her mom]], to which Shinji replies that he don't, then Kozo showed a photo of Shinji (as a baby), Yui and other people around her. Interestingly, in the photo it had a person that looked like Mari, which may implied that it was her. However, it was shown that her hair is brighter in the photo and didn't wear a headband. So it's unknown that it was her or soomeone else. However, it is that this is not an only time we see strange connections between them. In many scenes of [[Mari refers to Gendo as "Gendo-kun". Interestingly, "kun" is used for younger man but it also used for a person with the same age. In Gendo's flashback, we see "Mari" with Gendo. She also introduced Fuyutsuki and Yui and they got along with each other. | ||
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==Curse of Eva== | ==Curse of Eva (Before the Event of Rebuild of Evangelion and/or after Evangelion 2.0)== | ||
Another Evidences to mention is about Curse of Eva. We see that she has an apperence of a 16-year-old girl but way have knowledges about Nerv and | [[File:NERV Doggy.png|200px|thumb|right|NERV Doggy but not Shinji?]] | ||
Another Evidences to mention is about Curse of Eva. We see that she has an apperence of a 16-year-old girl but way have knowledges about Nerv (likes the knowledge of "Beast Mode" and relationship with Fuyutsuki, Yui and Gendo which is mentioned above. It may impled that she had curse of Eva before the event of Rebuild of Evangelion. However, if she actually had that, why Nerv has to recuit children/clones likes Rei, Asuka and Shinji in the first place? instead of recuiting right away? As they can know about her curse and take that as an advantage due to her relationships of Curse of Eva. They could have offer Misato to be a pilot for Nerv when she was a teenager to take revenge on Angels and she wouldn’t mind having a curse. Also if that exist and there is a procees to achieve that (whenever "Mari" was the creator/developer of that process or someoone else), why don't the WILLE troops and the people in the villages use it? means becoming immortal and only requiring only water sounds horrible but it can brings many advantages to repair all the problems in the post-Third Impact world and they don't need to worry about dying bustling in LCL when the [[Angel-Sealing Hex Glyphs#Angel-sealing Hex Pillars|Angel-sealing Hex Pillars]] eventually fall, starvation, disease or lack of resources. <ref>https://forum.evageeks.org/post/935205/Mari-is-not-afflicted-with-the-Curse-of-Eva/#935205</ref> | |||
Also, if she has a curse before the Rebuild events , why Mari doesn’t recognize Shinji when she meets him on the roof of a school and just simply calls him “littte NERV doggy” as she had a relationship with Yui and others as seen as the above photo in above? If she does, she could have mentioned about how he is similar to "Yui's child" or just simply call his real name (likes Shinji-(honorific)) but in the end she don't. | |||
[[File:Yui and "Mari" height comparision.jpg|200px|thumb|right]] | |||
[[File:"Mari" and Yui's height comparison in Gendo's flashback.png|200px|thumb|right]] | |||
In 2.0, Mari has an appearance of a 16-year-old high school girl while in Fuyutsuki's photo in 3.0 and in Gendo’s flashback, she is as tall as Yui. If she has a curse, how she is that young as "Mari" in 2 above evidences must be same age as Yui or little younger than her? This can be impled that with curse of Eva (with other things), she can revert her age to be as young as a young teenager but there is no evidents for that. | |||
==Another evidences== | ==Another evidences== | ||
==Theory== | ==Theory== | ||
Thanks to those above speculations, many fans created many theories, but there are two most popular theories among the fans: | Thanks to those above speculations, many fans created many theories, but there are two most popular theories among the fans: | ||
===Mari is (one of the) first victim of Curse of Eva before the event=== | ===Mari is (one of the) first victim of Curse of Eva before the event=== | ||
The most popular theory | The most popular and also the most easily accpeted theory | ||
===Mari appeared in Rebuild of Evangelion is a clone of the original=== | ===Mari appeared in Rebuild of Evangelion is a clone of the original=== | ||
The second most popular theory and | The second most popular theory | ||
==Trivia== | |||
Based on the The Ending of Evangelion 3.0 + 1.0 which Shinji and Mari on screen together with Mari being depicted as having the Curse of Eva before the Events of Rebuild of Evangelion by many, there are many memes depicted Mari is shown as a cougar or a pedophile and many “60 years old” jokes around her along with “Shinji marrys a 60-year-old woman". | |||
==References== | ==References== | ||
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*https://forum.evageeks.org/thread/21192/Is-Mari-a-clone/ | *https://forum.evageeks.org/thread/21192/Is-Mari-a-clone/ | ||
*https://forum.evageeks.org/thread/21286/Mari-is-not-afflicted-with-the-Curse-of-Eva/ | *https://forum.evageeks.org/thread/21286/Mari-is-not-afflicted-with-the-Curse-of-Eva/ | ||
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Mari's relationship with Fuyutsuki, Yui and Gendo
In a scene in Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo where Shinji and Kozo are playing Shogi, Kozo tell Shinji that if he missed her mom, to which Shinji replies that he don't, then Kozo showed a photo of Shinji (as a baby), Yui and other people around her. Interestingly, in the photo it had a person that looked like Mari, which may implied that it was her. However, it was shown that her hair is brighter in the photo and didn't wear a headband. So it's unknown that it was her or soomeone else. However, it is that this is not an only time we see strange connections between them. In many scenes of [[Mari refers to Gendo as "Gendo-kun". Interestingly, "kun" is used for younger man but it also used for a person with the same age. In Gendo's flashback, we see "Mari" with Gendo. She also introduced Fuyutsuki and Yui and they got along with each other.
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Curse of Eva (Before the Event of Rebuild of Evangelion and/or after Evangelion 2.0)
Another Evidences to mention is about Curse of Eva. We see that she has an apperence of a 16-year-old girl but way have knowledges about Nerv (likes the knowledge of "Beast Mode" and relationship with Fuyutsuki, Yui and Gendo which is mentioned above. It may impled that she had curse of Eva before the event of Rebuild of Evangelion. However, if she actually had that, why Nerv has to recuit children/clones likes Rei, Asuka and Shinji in the first place? instead of recuiting right away? As they can know about her curse and take that as an advantage due to her relationships of Curse of Eva. They could have offer Misato to be a pilot for Nerv when she was a teenager to take revenge on Angels and she wouldn’t mind having a curse. Also if that exist and there is a procees to achieve that (whenever "Mari" was the creator/developer of that process or someoone else), why don't the WILLE troops and the people in the villages use it? means becoming immortal and only requiring only water sounds horrible but it can brings many advantages to repair all the problems in the post-Third Impact world and they don't need to worry about dying bustling in LCL when the Angel-sealing Hex Pillars eventually fall, starvation, disease or lack of resources. [1]
Also, if she has a curse before the Rebuild events , why Mari doesn’t recognize Shinji when she meets him on the roof of a school and just simply calls him “littte NERV doggy” as she had a relationship with Yui and others as seen as the above photo in above? If she does, she could have mentioned about how he is similar to "Yui's child" or just simply call his real name (likes Shinji-(honorific)) but in the end she don't.
In 2.0, Mari has an appearance of a 16-year-old high school girl while in Fuyutsuki's photo in 3.0 and in Gendo’s flashback, she is as tall as Yui. If she has a curse, how she is that young as "Mari" in 2 above evidences must be same age as Yui or little younger than her? This can be impled that with curse of Eva (with other things), she can revert her age to be as young as a young teenager but there is no evidents for that.
Another evidences
Theory
Thanks to those above speculations, many fans created many theories, but there are two most popular theories among the fans:
Mari is (one of the) first victim of Curse of Eva before the event
The most popular and also the most easily accpeted theory
Mari appeared in Rebuild of Evangelion is a clone of the original
The second most popular theory
Trivia
Based on the The Ending of Evangelion 3.0 + 1.0 which Shinji and Mari on screen together with Mari being depicted as having the Curse of Eva before the Events of Rebuild of Evangelion by many, there are many memes depicted Mari is shown as a cougar or a pedophile and many “60 years old” jokes around her along with “Shinji marrys a 60-year-old woman".
References
- https://forum.evageeks.org/thread/21192/Is-Mari-a-clone/
- https://forum.evageeks.org/thread/21286/Mari-is-not-afflicted-with-the-Curse-of-Eva/
- https://forum.evageeks.org/post/921331/How-do-you-feel-about-Shinji-ending-up-with-Mari/#921331
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