Talk:First Ancestral Race

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This article irks me because it implies that there is more than one Adam and Lilith floating around the galaxy. --Szmitten 15:09, 17 August 2007 (EDT)

If you wanted to spread life throughout the galaxy, it would make sense to send more than 2 seeds of life, IMO --Ornette 15:11, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
But it's kind of misleading. It's never been said that Adam/White Moons and Lilith/Black Moons are the only ones. There might be red, blue, green, purple etc moons each with a never before seen seed contained within it.
Indeed. I recommend the sort of rewording Szmitten has in mind. --Reichu 15:18, 17 August 2007 (EDT)

Something like this? (See article) --thewayneiac Aug. 17, 2007 15:32 EDT.

Actually, going by CI, I believe they said that the whole point was that White Moons and Black Moons were never meant to land on the same planet, so Angels and Humans cannot co-exist. That they were the only two types. I will have to go and recheck to get an exact quote. --V 15:38, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
"They were the first extraterrestrial intelligence. The humanoid species, referred to as the First Ancestral Race, started to spread Seeds of Life throughout the Milky Way Galaxy. As of yet, we do not know their motives or for what they were aiming."
"Within a carrier known as a "Moon", the First Ancestral Race fabricated a perfect cavity (also referred to as "Moon"), at which point the Seed, or "Progenitor Entity", would be placed inside and sent out into space. It is becoming evident that multiple Seeds were disseminated. Eventually, by force of sheer bad luck, two accidentally landed on the same planet: Adam of the White Moon, and Lilith of the Black Moon."
"Two Seeds of Life are not needed on one planet, and, therefore, one of them is excluded."
Is it just me, or is this article more about Seeds of Life (which have their own article) than the FAR? --Reichu 15:44, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
Too little info on the FAR really. I tried to even it up a bit by mentioning their need for the Spears.--Szmitten 15:53, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
There's room for expansion.
  • Not all of the CI stuff is summarized here
  • Indications of their "presence" in the show is missing.
  • They were mentioned in the Proposal. (A placeholder for full translation.)
  • Part of a widespread sci-fi motif; provide some of their "predecessors", perhaps.
  • Theory can be included. (A separate page would be pointless.)
Seed-specific stuff belongs in the Seed article to eliminate redundancy. --Reichu 16:20, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
I've rewritten the Seeds article to take that into account, I'm also just trying to make all of the FAR, Seeds, Spear, First Impact articles cohesive and concurrent with eachother - not to belittle the work that's already been done.--Szmitten 16:46, 17 August 2007 (EDT)
Go for it, Szmit. Almost everything needs polishing up around here. ;;> --Reichu 17:25, 17 August 2007 (EDT)


Wall of text is unattractive and intimidating, needs to be structured to include subsections and/or any images loosely connected to the FAR. --Szmitten 09:08, 16 December 2007 (PST)

I agree. --V 09:14, 16 December 2007 (PST)

Hold the phone

Where did this FAR are humanoid, come from within the milky way and there being seven seeds stuff come from?--Szmitten 02:02, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Two of the three are right there in the CI: "The humanoid species, referred to as the First Ancestral Race, started to spread Seeds of Life throughout the Milky Way Galaxy." The "7 Seeds" stuff comes from Kaworu's good ending in NGE2:AC (IIRC, "7 carriers" are mentioned, and since one Seed is put in each "carrier"="Moon", that makes 7 Seeds) . I haven't added the translated scene to the wiki's resources yet, but the relevant thread is stickied in discussion. For now, I've dumped an "unreferenced" template onto the article, and I'll add citations sometime after this week. --Reichu 02:18, 10 March 2011 (UTC)


So when is the "does not cite any references or citations" issue going to be addressed? MarqFJA87 (talk) 16:29, 28 January 2016 (EST)

I think someone's going to need to go through the NGE2 thread about the FAR to reference instances from the video game. I think almost all of the references are from Kaworu's ending of the game. --Ornette (talk) 10:56, 29 January 2016 (EST)