User talk:Incisivis

"Sweet guinea pig of Winnipeg!", welcome to the site ^_^ btw, what does your screename mean?--V 10:30, 23 August 2007 (EDT)

That's supposed to be a quote from Hermes Conrad, right? Yer link's wrong :P As for my name, it's a play on the word "incisive", which means sharp or keen, and it's often used to refer to writing. The "is" on the end is a reference to Transformer naming like "Cyclonus" and "Rodimus Prime". It did start out as the name of a Transformers fanchar, but now it's taken on a life of its own. Incisivis 12:26, 23 August 2007 (EDT)

I just saw the "Transformers" Michael Bay movie Sunday night, (right before it went out of theaters): suffice to say, I was "not amused". Fixed the link. Well, Pleased to meet you, hope you guessed my name...--V 13:37, 23 August 2007 (EDT)

Nor was I. But I'm almost alone on that: the fandom as a whole *loved* it. I disliked the movie because it focused too much on the humans (though I know the reasons why), and was generally loud and obnoxious with the TFs not having much personality. And "Sympathy for the Devil" is a rockin' song, though I associate it now with an AMV a friend made, which used the song as a tribute to the great villains of American and Japanese animation. Incisivis 13:31, 24 August 2007 (EDT)

Starscream had literally one line of dialogue, but they force me to sit through half an hour of PAINFUL dialogue from a moronic "special agent" character, while another Transformer's maximum screentime was devoted to a urination joke? Didn't they realize that if you make a film aimed at fans of a show that aired 10-20 years ago, don't insert humor for 5 year olds? And then, why fill it with so many masturbation/sex jokes? The whole thing was a fusion of Michael Bay (Director) and Steven Spielberg (producer)...and not in any wholesome SilverBolt way; dear god, I mean Spielberg's approach is to have "everyday kids from suburbia affected by great extraordinary adventures (this can work and even be mature if handled well), and Michael Bay's formula is to focus on military characters and experts: so what was their plan for this? shoehorn both narrative formats into each other and have both the suburban everyteenager character and military characters, resulting in not enough real development or screentime for EACH set of characters, while depriving time from the Transformers.....er, but I digress....(sorry the forums are down and I had nowhere to vent this; I just saw it Sunday and I still feel....dirty...btw, where do I find this AMV?--V 15:03, 24 August 2007 (ED

But...but I liked it ;_;--Szmitten 16:09, 24 August 2007 (EDT)

Open your eyes to the wool that has been pulled over them, Szmitten; the Matrix has you. --V 21:18, 24 August 2007 (EDT)

Szmitten, if it's any consolation, most fans really loved it, as I said. V and I are mostly alone on this. I'm not bitter, though. I just forget the movie and go back to the TF stuff I do like. It helps that I was never a big fan of the first two years of the TF cartoon (which this movie tried to replicate), but only liked the characters introduced in the '86 movie and afterwards, though I'm also a big fan of Beast Wars

And V, the video I mentioned can be found here . For the record, I have read the original V for Vendetta comic, but didn't see the movie: I'm a huge book geek, so my thought process always is "If you've seen the book, who needs the movie?" :P Incisivis 22:46, 24 August 2007 (EDT)

Check out the movie ("for free" through the wonder of the internets). On the one-hand, it was not a direct, page-by-page adaptation of the graphic novel. Then again, a page-by-page adaptation would have been 6 hours long. Sort of like LOTR, I thought it a great adaptation and condensation of the comic. Naughty-fun-bits: V fighting police, V's Televised speech (having rewatched the movie something like 50+ times on DVD, I kind of intentionally talk like this now ^_^), At this point, all V needs to do is keep his word...and then--V 23:19, 24 August 2007 (EDT)

1. If you remove an extra link by removing the double brackets, i.e. [[Shinji Ikari]] to just "Shinji Ikari", you don't need to add "nowiki" tags around it. Simply removing the double brackets removes the links.
2. For god's sake stop spelling words with extra U's. The metric system is a tool of the Devil. --V 17:56, 7 October 2007 (PDT)

Is this about something on the pages? Because if it's not, quitcherbitchin'. It's my user page, and I can spell using the completely senseless combination of US and British spelling that my home country provides. :P Incisivis 18:29, 7 October 2007 (PDT)

No, no you figured out what I meant on the Asuka page; good to go. Otherwise, my car gets 5 rods to the hogshead of gasoline, and that's the way I likes it!--V 19:05, 7 October 2007 (PDT)

FYI, yes, drop what you're doing and marathon Avatar seasons 1 and 2; astonishingly one of the best series on ANY channel of the past 5 years; so much sharp dialogue, well rounded characters, innovative storytelling, and uber attention to continuity that it makes a grown man cry. --V 19:11, 7 October 2007 (PDT)

Oh, thank god, I thought you were talking about my spelling of "dialogue", which Firefox for some reason doesn't accept, but does "dialog". It's one of those godawful spelling shortening like "nite" that I hope never catches on. Sometimes I wish a bottomless pit of artistic mispellers did exist. :/

And yes, season 3 of Avatar started airing in Canada at the same time as yours (though now you're an episode before us). I'd caught the show off and on before, but season 3 made a full convert. It is an amazing show, for all the reasons you say. I'm going to check if any of the local places have all the DVDs for rental. Incisivis 19:32, 7 October 2007 (PDT)

Cool you're back

Thanks for coming back: you're a professional short story writer and all :) TV now stinks seeing as Canada is getting the second half of Avatar season 3 and we are not. Anyway, thanks for the new drive on the character articles: please go full steam on those, hold nothing back, just go wild. Kick-ass: you have fully mastered how to play around with image files on wiki format ("right" "250px" "thumb" etc in various combinations). That's great. Please keep this up I've noticed a great dearth of images and I'm a moron that doesn't know how to create screencaps. Btw, the blind date Hikari set up Asuka for was with a "College aged guy"? Really? I don't remember that episode (V goes to look for transcript)...er, when did they say that? I always envisioned it as a blind date with some Kensuke-esque dork. --V 18:47, 30 January 2008 (PST)

Ah-ah-ah! I'm not a pro until I get published, not win a dinky local contest. :) As for coming back, I had figured a while ago that I should get off my fat butt and do some work here, but I was limited in what I could do. Character stuff is just about all I know, and I seemed stuck, until now, when I realized that I'd ignored just simple grammar-scrubbing. The initial profiles were a rush job all done simultaneously, and I'm hoping to improve them in structure and content.

As for screencaps, I badly need to figure out the "code" for episode screencaps. I uploaded one scene before I realized that there was some specific number designations. Oops. :(

I'm afraid I might have made a mistake about Asuka and her date. There's nothing in the Platinum subs to indicate how old Kodama's friend was or what his position was; I'll take care of that right away. Though I don't think he was a "dork", since Asuka referred to him as "a hunk" to Misato when she was eating some potato chips.

By the way, my e-mail is still open if you're ever wondering where I am or if I've quit the project.Incisivis 18:07, 31 January 2008 (PST)

OMG, you aren't thinking of quitting are you? (there's a ton of stuff to do and few that understand it well; you've been heavily involved since the original commentary project). Wait, what's your e-mail?--V 18:43, 31 January 2008 (PST)

Relax, V; I'm going nowhere. I just meant that if you ever wanted to reach me, or were worried about me going away, to call. And my e-mail is my username here, at hotmail dot com. Though I have to admit, I'm not really in on "the ground floor" so to speak. I only get my non-series info through the forums, and am never the first to hear. I also only know a few words and structure of Japanese, and cannot read any characters or form a complete sentence. Incisivis 18:48, 31 January 2008 (PST)

What "code" for episode screencaps? You mean in screencapping (of which I know nothing) or in loading it on here? As for the character pages: fundamentally I think the problem is that people tend to focus on the primary characters first. That is, "Luke Skywalker" is the one everyone wants to write first, when in fact they should "work their way up to that" by writing for "Admiral Ackbar" and eventually "Lando Calrissian" etc. That is, "Luke Skywalker" means so many things to so many people that a "definitive entry" may indeed be impossible, but it could be argued that there is a "correct" "Admiral Ackbar" article, if you follow me. I.e. I've been focusing my past efforts on "Maya Ibuki", trying for us to get that "good" first as a "working model" of what we would consider "good". --V 20:04, 31 January 2008 (PST)

I don't know if in this fandom people will want to go for the main character first. :P By the way, what I mean by a "code", for example, this screencap from Episode 01 is labeled "FGC_01_C003a.jpg". I can't make heads or tails of that, though I am guessing it comes from the designation used for the commentary project. My question is, is this how we're going through all the screencaps? Because it could get confusing. Also, I intended to replace primary character images with screencaps from the series, if I can. I know the OP pictures are convenient, but they create a real inconsistency. Incisivis 15:45, 1 February 2008 (PST)

Oh its not nearly that complicated, don't worry: you see, I think ADV and others would get annoyed if we had high quality screencaps of literally every frame of the series: thus the "Eva Commentary" images we've ported onto here (for episodes 1 through 4) are low quality, like 15 KB. The way this is going to work is we simply request image files that are needed. For example, look at "Israfel". This image: Image:09 C332 israfel.jpg is just floating in there. Try to keep it above 30 KB in size but not much bigger than 90 KB, in between that region. The idea is they're sorted by those things on the bottom, the category tags: "Category: Episode 09 images". You can actually rename the image files when you load them onto the site, sometimes we just didn't bother renaming what their codename was when they got loaded on the first time. I.e., an image file could be named "Asuka Crying" as its full title, and we'd just slap "Category: Episode 08 Images" onto that (or Category: Asuka images, and categories can overlap). And even then, we can "move" an image to a new name. So just name them a title that describes what's actually in the image; the Category tabs are how they will be sorted, not some sort of numerical code (that's what the EvaCommentary uses to tell what specific cuts things come from in the script, but the Evapedia articles will never be that specific). Please just load up whatever you can find and pay no heed whatsoever to the names; we'll cross that bridge when we get to it and the actual names are more of just a minor niggling detail. I hope this helps.--V 17:27, 1 February 2008 (PST)

Additional: "Image:FGC 01 C003a.jpg" is part of the "Fan Geeks Commentary" namespace. "Namespace" means its part of the Eva Commentary, not the Evapedia: they're shared on the same mediawiki system and have some overlap but are kind of two separate projects. As you can see that image of Sachiel is only 5 KB (I would consider anything less than 30 KB more or less unusable on Evapedia; you can stretch them but the image resolution stinks). If you wanted to use an image of this exact same shot on the Evapedia you would simply: take a better screencap of this shot of at least 30 KB, but ***not bigger than 153 KB*** (this officially is "too big" and strains the system; we might have one or two images bigger than that and they can still display but it strains some computers...eh, we'd use bigger than 153KB for "hero shots" and "closeups of hard to read computer displays", but for just "Asuka in classroom" or "Shinji getting punched by Toji" we'd have no need for such a ZOMG HUEG file). Once you load this file, it says "What should I name this file?" (you can change it to whatever you want). Just call it a description of what it is: "Sachiel swimming". Then load it up. Finally, a category tag will be added to it, so it is in "Category: Episode 01 images". You don't need to handle that category stuff unless you want to though, others will. It's really very simple and you've already demonstrated that you can do everything you actually need to be able to do (in the Ritsuko article, etc.) --V 17:33, 1 February 2008 (PST)

All right thank you, I'll keep it up. Incisivis 11:59, 2 February 2008 (PST)

Images

You asked be about the legal copyright status of images and such. Here's the deal: Reichu told me to pause my touting of how I want EvaGeeks to hit it big and stuff with Weta/ADV, so I won't go into detail, but I had this whole open essay worked out, "Fandom: The Fifth Estate" (joke) to explain this, but here's the long and short of it: "Subtle he needs must be, who could seduce Angels". First off, we cannnot violate "fair use" laws. These are actually vaguely defined, but so long as we're not "systematically taking screenshots of literally every frame in the series", and as long as we're not making super-high definition screenshots, but things which are more in the 150KB to ~ 300 KB range, we should be fine (***files bigger than 150 KB straing the ability of mediawiki to display them anyway, so I'd prefer if we all just stuck to a 150 KB size ceiling...unless its something like small print text we're trying to show bigger, "hero shot" images for articles, etc.)--->In addition to meeting Fair Use Law requirements, we'd rather not get ADV or Gainax angry at us. We could try and run the Fair Use legal loophole at them, but in all seriousness we'd rather win these people over to our side instead of automatically taking an confrontational stance (look how LOTR and TheOneRing.net have been workig hand in hand). Thus while we could simply rely on "fair use laws", we also do not want to insult the actual content producers (or the distributors) by being needlessly mean to them. Just starting loading images on to the site without worrying about this and as you start out, on a case by case basis I'll point out to you which ones are obviously too big, and you'll get the hang of it as you go. --V 10:40, 8 February 2008 (PST)

Image:Ep 21 yuis note.JPG is excellent: it is 98 KB in size and thus fully within what should be considered reasonable parameters. How to sort and organize images: Go to the image file "Image:Ep 21 yuis note.JPG". Notice that it is uncategorized. Your title was good because it is descriptive (it's a note, its from Yui). Click "edit". You will see a blank page (the image file doesn't display when you edit info on the file page). Onto this blank page, add "[[Category:Images (Episode 21 Screenshots)]]" then click "save". Now at the bottom of the image file page there should now be a link added which says "Cagetory: Images (Episode 21 Screenshots)". Clicking on this link will display a thumbnail gallery of all other images belonging to this group: do this, and you know all you need to know about categorizing images (it has nothing to do with script numbering as you thought). Of course, an image can belong to multiple overlapping categories, i.e. an image of Shinji standing in front of Eva-01 in Episode 01 will belong to the categories "Shinji images", "Eva-01 images", and "Episode 01 images", etc. Go for it. --V 09:38, 10 February 2008 (PST)