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Again Dr. Nick, this should not exist as an article, unless it's mostly a comparison of similarities between the two works.  Of course, on the front of here you did say that you did have in mind to put up pictures about each; so please get those up quickly ^_^ --[[User:V|V]] 11:17, 31 July 2007 (EDT)
:Also, 2001 (the film) did NOT contain artificial evolution and alien progenitors. While Clarke's book did, Kubrick made it very clear that we were not to know exactly what the Monoliths were or did (if anything). The most obvious link I find between the two are with the monoliths. A screen shot of both should be easy to upload.--[[User:Eva Yojimbo|Eva Yojimbo]] 07:53, 18 August 2007 (EDT)
::Actually, on other pages like this Dr.Nick has explained that they will be devoted to comparisons with NGE;  I don't really see a big difference if the book or movie of 2001 mentioned it or not, when I think "2001" I think "Progenitor Aliens like the FAR doing stuff".  --[[User:V|V]] 13:02, 19 August 2007 (EDT)
:::I'm a bit of an expert on this, so trust me when I say that Kubrick went out of his way to NOT follow the book when it came to exactly what the monolith was and did. He left it unexplained so people would look at the monolith in a symbolic light rather than as a literal narrative device. This means that we can not attribute "Progenitor Aliens" to anything in the 2001 film because there's little there to suggest it, and nothing to prove it. --[[User:Eva Yojimbo|Eva Yojimbo]] 13:12, 19 August 2007 (EDT)
:This stub will be nuked once we have a better location for this info. What needs to be mentioned in the encyclopedia is that the monoliths were copied from the movie, and nothing else, IMO. Assuming we'll eventually have a more in-depth references guide, we can use it to explain the more obscure details, like how 2001 refs are also found in Gunbuster, how the movie and the book versions differ etc. If the progenitors (book context) get mentioned, I'll try to find that quotation, I believe it's from "2010", where their methods are described (how they "planted, sowed, and sometimes, unwillingly, reaped", or something along those lines). It's nothing terribly relevant, but I feel it would be a nice little extra. 
Good thing we have at least one expert on board, I haven't even read all the books in the series. --[[User:Dr. Nick|Dr. Nick]] 20:13, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

:I'm an expert on the film but have only read the first book. Clarke makes it clear in his book that there are extra-terrestrials at work with regards to the monoliths and what becomes of Dave. However, Kubrick left that part open to interpretation very deliberately. --[[User:Eva Yojimbo|Eva Yojimbo]] 08:50, 21 August 2007 (EDT)

PLEASE KILL THIS STUB NOW. It has served its purpose. Thank you. --[[User:Dr. Nick|Dr. Nick]] 14:26, 10 October 2007 (PDT)

:I'm bringing this back from the dead for the time being. --[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 03:50, 7 March 2008 (PST)