FGC:Episode 18 Scene 03

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HIKARI:“I'm sorry, Asuka. You always walk home with Ikari.”

ASUKA:“Forget it. The only reason I'm with Shinji is because of work.”




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ASUKA (OFF):“And I don't feel like seeing him today anyway.”




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ASUKA:“This is about Suzuhara, isn't it?”




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HIKARI:“Yes. You could tell?”

ASUKA:“It's obvious. The three stooges are about the only ones who don't see it.”

HIKARI:“But Ikari seems naïve.”

ASUKA:“Actually, he's the most dense of them all.”

UrsusArctos: This entire conversation is a straight-up reference to the classic manga Oniisama-e... as detailed on the tributes page.


dzzthink: I find it funny that everyone in the class is aware of Hikari's crush aside from the three stooges.


UrsusArctos: "Not being aware someone has a crush on you while (almost) everyone else does" is a common romantic trope, although this probably goes to show how disconnected the three stooges are from the class social reality. Just as funny, Toji treats Asuka and Shinji as a couple, but by the time we reach End of Evangelion, whether or not he's right is an open question.


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ASUKA (OFF):“And he's an idiot to boot. He doesn't know how to relate to people.”

HIKARI (OFF):“Really?”




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HIKARI:“I think Suzuhara might like Miss Ayanami.”

UrsusArctos: She may be right. Toji did seem to lust after Rei in Episode 05 Cut 120 and it does put his facial expressions in Cut 054 in a new context if he's disappointed that Rei isn't interested in him.




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ASUKA:“Suzuhara does?! Miss Perfect?!”

HIKARI:“They seemed to be getting along during lunch.”

ASUKA:“Don't worry, Hikari. There's no way.”




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ASUKA:“She's a million times denser than Shinji is about relating to people!”




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HIKARI:“Really?”




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ASUKA:“Really!”




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ASUKA:“Can I ask you one thing?”

HIKARI:“What?”

ASUKA:“What do you see in that hot-headed stooge?”




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HIKARI:“His kindness...”




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WOMAN (TELEVISION):“Ultimately, getting back together with you that time”




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WOMAN (TELEVISION):“was where all the mistakes began.”

MAN (TELEVISION):“How can you say that now?”




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SHINJI:“Come to think of it...”

ASUKA:“Kaji sure spends a lot of time in the tub.”

WOMAN (TELEVISION):“I can still change my life. There are lots of pitfalls in life,”




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SHINJI:“I wonder who's going to pilot Unit 03?”

WOMAN (TELEVISION):“but even if you fall in, you can just crawl your way out of it again.”

MAN (TELEVISION):“And I'm the pitfall?”




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ASUKA:“You mean you haven't heard yet?”

WOMAN (TELEVISION):“I don't have to live in sorrow.”

WOMAN (TELEVISION):“But after despair, hope is always waiting for you.”




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SHINJI:“Who is it?”




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MAN (TELEVISION):“And I'm the pronoun for your despair?”




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ASUKA:“I don't know.”

WOMAN (TELEVISION):“Yes, the only reason I came back was so we could break up again.”




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KAJI:“That was refreshing!”

MAN (TELEVISION):“This is too mean.”




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KAJI:“What? Are you two fighting again? You guys are hopeless.”

WOMAN (TELEVISION):“Now that I consider it, a man who sucks at kissing never works out!”

MAN (TELEVISION):“My kissing sucks?”

WOMAN (TELEVISION):“Not just your kissing!”

Mr. Tines: The commentary on Episode 16 is laid on thickly here.


UrsusArctos: You mean Episode 15, don't you? The one with the two kisses (one disgusting, the other disastrous)?



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KAJI (OFF):“Are you two always like this when Katsuragi's gone?”

ASUKA:“No!”

ASUKA:“I get to spend the night with you, after all, so I'd love to be all happy and smiling. But I can't do it tonight. I just can't.”

MAN (TELEVISION):“Not just my kissing?!”

WOMAN (TELEVISION):“I knew it! Why did I repeat the same mistake?”

WOMAN (TELEVISION):“Yes, this mistake must be corrected!”




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WOMAN (TELEVISION):“I must start a new life free of regret!”




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KAJI:“I understand. Let's go to bed.”

MAN (TELEVISION):“Before you do that,”




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KAJI:“Going to bed early is the best thing for these situations.”

MAN (TELEVISION):“why don't you put your clothes on and make the bed?”




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SHINJI:“Are you asleep yet, Kaji?”

KAJI:“No, not yet.”

SHINJI:“What's my father like?”

Mr. Tines: Another all too brief male bonding time. Shinji would have benefited from being transferred to Kaji's care -- but that would have cut too deeply into his double-agent time.


UrsusArctos: Perhaps, but Kaji's repressed death-seeker tendencies might rub off onto Shinji.



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KAJI:“Well, that came out of nowhere. I thought you'd ask about Katsuragi.”

SHINJI:“Because it seems like you're always with my father.”




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KAJI:“It's the vice Commander who's always with him. Have you been asking around about your father?”

SHINJI:“Because I haven't been around him much.”

KAJI:“So you don't really know him?”

SHINJI:“But I've learned a lot about him lately. About his work, about my mother, so...”




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KAJI:“You're wrong there. You only believe that you've learned.”




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KAJI (OFF):“People can't understand others completely. Who knows if you can even understand yourself? Understanding each other one hundred percent is impossible.”




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KAJI:“Of course, that's why we spend so much time trying to understand ourselves and others. That's what makes life so interesting.”

SHINJI:“Is that also true for you and Miss Misato?”




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KAJI:“The word we use for "she" literally means "the woman far away". To us, women will always be on the distant shore. Basically, there's a river dividing men and women, deeper and wider than the ocean.”




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SHINJI:“I don't understand adults.”

dzzthink: As a follow-up to the watermelon scene, Kaji provides a great deal of wisdom. Perhaps this scene is foreshadowing something, or rather Kaji is warning Shinji about his father. Just when Shinji might finally begin developing an understanding of his father with their earlier interactions, there is a great amount of unknown that separates us from forming close relationships.


UrsusArctos: It might reveal Kaji's own failure or incapacity to understand women, and be an oblique admission of that failure. Kaji's small smile during this sequence seems...bitter? Insincere? Kaji talks about women being on "the other shore" but there is one character whose surname literally means "the shore" or "beach" and whose soul comes from an explicitly female being and who does connect with Shinji in a scene that visually evokes this...


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