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SHINJI A (OFF):“Who's there?”




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SHINJI A (OFF):“Who's there?”

SHINJI B (OFF):“Shinji Ikari.”

SHINJI A (OFF):“That's me.”

SHINJI B (OFF):“I am you. People have another self within themselves. The self is always composed of two people.”

SHINJI A (OFF):“Two people?”

SHINJI B (OFF):“The self which is actually seen, and the self observing that. There are many entities called Shinji Ikari. The other Shinji Ikari that exists in your mind. The Shinji Ikari in Misato Katsuragi's mind, the Shinji in Asuka Sohryu, the Shinji in Rei Ayanami, and the Shinji in Gendo Ikari. All are different Shinji Ikaris, but each of them is a true Shinji Ikari. You are afraid of those Shinji Ikaris in other people's minds.”

SHINJI A (OFF):“I'm afraid of other people hating me.”

SHINJI B (OFF):“You're afraid of being hurt.”

UrsusArctos: Shinji B - who we will see in the next cut as a little Shinji with a striped shirt - is a manifestation of Leliel. The discussion here prefigures Episode 20, the End of TV and End of Evangelion, and is drawn heavily from Ryu Murakami's Ai to Gensou no Fascism (The Fascism of Love and Fantasy). In the absence of any English translations of the Murakami novel, I've had to make do with an English translation (NOT under CC-BY-SA) of an essay by a Japanese fan here to make the connection.


Dr. Nick: We get a repeat of this method of communication in episode 23, when Armisael appears to Rei as a version of herself.



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SHINJI A (OFF):“Who is at fault?”

SHINJI B (OFF):“Father is the one who is at fault.”




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SHINJI B (OFF):“The father who deserted me.”












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SHINJI A (OFF):“It's my fault.”






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ASUKA:“There you go, always immediately thinking that it's your fault!”

dzzthink: This is the main concept of splitting and is quite bluntly pointed out by Asuka. The unrealistic thinking of the extremes of one's self. Even the banal conversation at the beginning of the episode where Asuka shouts at Shinji becomes something that Shinji feels guilt for. The subsequent montage goes through many of the negative experiences Shinji may have felt bad about.














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ASUKA:“That's why I say you're self-deprecating!”

UrsusArctos: We saw this particular animated sequence earlier in the episode, and it will be employed to great effect in Episode 25.










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SHINJI (OFF):“I can't do anything.”




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MISATO:“You just believe that you can't do anything.”












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REI:“Don't you have faith in your father?”






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SHINJI (OFF):“I think I hate him, but now I'm not sure.”




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IKARI (OFF):“Good work, Shinji.”






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SHINJI (OFF):“My father called me by my name.”










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SHINJI (OFF):“I was praised by my father!”






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SHINJI B (OFF):“You're going to spend the rest of your life ruminating on that happiness?”

SHINJI A (OFF):“If I believe in those words,”




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SHINJI A (OFF):“I can keep on living.”




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SHINJI B (OFF):“As you continue to deceive yourself?”






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SHINJI A (OFF):“Everybody does it! That's how everyone survives.”

SHINJI B (OFF):“Believe that you're fine with the way things are, or you won't be able to keep living.”

SHINJI A (OFF):“There's too much hardship in this world for me to keep living.”

SHINJI B (OFF):“For example, the fact you can't swim?”

SHINJI A (OFF):“Humans aren't made to float!”

SHINJI B (OFF):“That is self-deception.”

SHINJI A (OFF):“I don't care what you call it!”

Mr. Tines: Swimming seems an odd choice of hardship, even if Shinji's lack of the skill has been implied by his deciding to do physics homework rather than doggy-paddling in the shallow end. There's probably a real world tale to be told here.




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SHINJI B (OFF):“You've shut your eyes and turned a deaf ear to the things you don't like.”








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KENSUKE (OFF):“His sister was injured”






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KENSUKE (OFF):“during the incident.”




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MISATO (OFF):“Who cares what the others say?!”




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IKARI (OFF):“Leave!”
















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SHINJI (OFF):“No, I don't want”






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SHINJI:“to hear this!”






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SHINJI B (OFF):“See? You're running away again.”




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SHINJI B (OFF):“There's no way you can live by linking just the enjoyable moments like a rosary. Especially not me.”

SHINJI A:“I've found something I enjoy! Finding something you enjoy and doing nothing but that...”

UrsusArctos: Very much the opposite of the Dementor-repelling Expecto Patronum from the Harry Potter series. Unlike J. K. Rowling, Hideaki Anno seems to reject the idea that one can fight off depression by bringing forth one's happiest memories.












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SHINJI A:“What's wrong with that?!”



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