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In [[Evangelion 3.0]] after 14 years Nerv headquarters has undergone extensive changes. '''New Nerv Headquarters''' itself now sits perched thousands of meters above the old [[Geofront]], in the midst of a post-Third Impact wasteland. The ruins of the old Headquarters sit entombed at the bottom of a massive inverted concrete pyramid containing the New HQ. The logo of Nerv itself has also been changed into one featuring [[Angel-Sealing Hex Glyphs|glyphs]].<br />
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The New Headquarters contains many of the old Nerv facilities, though most lie in ruins. The entire complex appears to be completely automated, with only Gendo, Fuyutsuki, Rei, Kaworu, and now Shinji the only living people shown within. Both the inside and outside of the facilities are pocked with craters, seemingly from a battle of some kind. Parts of the facility are also filled with frozen [[Bakelite]]. The damage alludes to events similar to those seen in a separate continuity -- specifically during the [[JSSDF]] attack in [[The End of Evangelion]] -- but the exact causes are currently unknown.<br />
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== Locations ==<br />
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=== Old Eva Cages ===<br />
[[File:Eva3-33 C0553 cage.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Ruined and exposed Eva Cages]]<br />
The old [[Evangelion Cage|Eva cages]] are now completely exposed to the sky, and coated in red dust. Kaworu has set up his piano in a cleaned off area with a few plants growing nearby.<br />
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=== Old Command Center ===<br />
[[File:Eva3-33 C0883 comp.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Lilith's head within the old command center.]]<br />
The old [[Command center]] is show in complete ruins. Lilith's severed head, now in the shape of Rei's lies within, surrounded by a multitude of frozen, grasping [[Failures of Infinity]]. <br />
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=== Shinji's room ===<br />
[[Image:Eva3-33 C0672 curl.jpg|200px|right|thumb|Shinji's room]]<br />
Shinji is quartered in a bare room containing only a bed. He receives food and fresh clothes via an automated dispenser system.<br />
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=== Rei's LCL Facility===<br />
[[File:Eva3-33 C0620 comp.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Rei's LCL facility]]<br />
One facility which appears largely unchanged is Rei's LCL facility, containing her LCL tank.<br />
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=== Eva-13's Pod ===<br />
[[File:Eva3-33 C0571.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Eva-13's "birthing" pod, inside an even more enormous chamber.]]<br />
Eva-13 is constructed, or possibly grown, inside a pod similar to the main engine to the [[AAA Wunder]], which is situated inside a colossal chamber.<br />
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===Gendo's old Office ===<br />
[[File:Eva3-33 C0821B.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Gendo's old office, miraculously partially intact.]]<br />
Parts of Gendo's old office have miraculously survived [[Zeruel|Zeruel's]] attack, and are now exposed to the air. Gendo and Fuyutsuki still hold meetings inside.<br />
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===Lilith's Chamber===<br />
At the bottommost level of Central Dogma lies [[Lilith's Chamber (NTE)|Lilith's chamber]], which as well as Lilith herself, has been altered greatly by the events of Third Impact.<br />
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=== Seele Monolith Chamber ===<br />
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The largely silent Seele monoliths float high in the air inside a chamber somewhere in the New HQ. The chamber also contains machinery which Fuyutsuki later uses to disable the monoliths, as well as an anti-gravity device which Gendo later uses to float up to speak with the monoliths.<br />
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== See Also ==<br />
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* [[Evangelion 2.0]]<br />
* [[Theory_and_Analysis:Third_Impact_(NTE)]]<br />
* [[The End of Evangelion|The End of Evangelion]] ''(Note: Different Continuity)''<br />
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[[Category:Rebuild of Evangelion]]</div>ReiAyanami25https://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=Neon_Genesis_Evangelion_Academy:_Record_of_Heaven%27s_Descent&diff=73369Neon Genesis Evangelion Academy: Record of Heaven's Descent2012-06-15T08:44:14Z<p>ReiAyanami25: </p>
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'''Neon Genesis Evangelion Academy: The Records of Heaven's Descent''' (新世紀エヴァンゲリオン 学園堕天録) (released as "Campus Apocalypse" in the U.S.) is an officially licensed manga spin-off of Neon Genesis Evangelion. It is authored by Min Min and published in Asuka magazine. <br />
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The story starts with Shinji losing a coin beneath a vending machine, when he seeks to retrieve it he discovers a marble-like stone which is later revealed to be a core. The core Shinji discovers acts as a key into a secret organisation of students (Asuka, Rei, Kaworu) within the school he goes to, Nerv Foundation Academy, who battle the Angels (who seek the cores for themselves). <br />
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The cores are needed to sustain the "World Tree," which has been withering. If the World Tree were to die all forms of existence would become one, and worlds would merge into one as well.<br />
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The Angels, in competition with the Guardians (Shinji, Kaworu, Rei, and Asuka), who seek to wipe them from existence. Though they are in competition with the Guardians, the Angels are revealed to be one of the things that holds the world together, much like the cores. These Angels must take a vessel to exist in the world. Otherwise they exist only as a mind. <br />
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Current EvaGeeks articles on the manga volumes:<br />
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[[Volume 1 (Neon Genesis Evangelion Academy: Record of Heaven's Descent)|Volume 1]] [[Volume 2 (Neon Genesis Evangelion Academy: Record of Heaven's Descent)|Volume 2]] [[Volume 3 (Neon Genesis Evangelion Academy: Record of Heaven's Descent)|Volume 3]]<br />
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==Story Overview==<br />
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===Volume 1===<br />
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Shinji finds a reddish orb-like object under a vending machine one night, which is later revealed to be a core. He then sees Rei Aynami, a girl from his class, with a boy he doesn't recognize.<br />
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The next morning at school a new transfer student is introduced to Shinji's class. It is Kaworu Nagisa, the boy he saw with Rei the previous night. <br />
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Kensuke also shows Shinji a website describing a prophecy that fortells the world's destruction. Kensuke says that date of destruction will happen this year.<br />
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After school Shinji follows Rei and Kaworu, but soon loses sight of them. But out of nowhere Rei runs into his path, holding an object that looks like the Lance of Longinus. She hurls it at a crow (who is summoning up a ball of energy to be used as an attack), destroying it. A core like the one Shinji found falls from the crow and is retrieved.<br />
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A second Angel, called Ramiel, attacks Kaworu, Rei, and Shinji at that same scene. Kaworu is badly injured from pushing Shinji out of the way of falling rocks during the battle, and Shinji tries to wake him. As Ramiel flys towards him, Shinji screams and a bright light radiates from his body, which appears to eliminate the Angel. After, Shinji wakes up in Nerv Foundation Academy's infirmary, and is taken to Nerv headquarters by Rei. He is told that he will battle with the Guardians (Kaworu, Rei, and Asuka), though Shinji is hesitant to accept this.<br />
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Later, Ramiel gets a new body and attacks Shinji while he's walking home from school. Asuka appears to help him. As Asuka is distracted by Shinji, Ramiel take the opportunity to attack her. Shinji uses his Eva gun successfully and stops Ramiel's attack. Kaworu and Rei show up. Kaworu defeats the Angel and retrieves its core.<br />
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===Volume 2===<br />
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After fully understanding the gravity of his actions with the Guardians, Shinji doesn't know if he wants to fight, and starts to feel awkward around Kaworu. Kaworu stays the night at Shinji's house and is able to reassure him while fixing their friendship. Shinji later meets up with Rei, which causes him to examine why he wants to fight with the Guardians. He agrees with himself that he wants to fight so he can live happily with the people he has come to know and like.<br />
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Kensuke is given a game by a developper from GNX games. He is told to spread it to all the school's computers so it can be beta-tested. Kensuke does so before going missing, and soon students playing the game fall unconscious.<br />
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It is revealed that the developper of the game is an Angel, and that he implanted an Angel named Iruel into the game to allow it to exist. He says the point of the game is to establish a link to Nerv headquarters.<br />
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Kaji reveals that Shinji was placed in an orphanage after his mother was killed. Since then, neither Kaji nor Shinji have heard from Shinji's father, and believe him to be dead or overseas.<br />
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===Volume 3===<br />
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Shinji meets his father, who is unusually cold towards him. After this, Shinji falls under Nerv's custody and will leave the apartment he lives in with Kaji. <br />
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[[Image:NGE_GD_volume_3.jpg|thumb|left|Iruel controls Kensuke]]<br />
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Kaji creates an article on what he believes Nerv is doing, which includes his hypothesis on the Angels. He questions the ethics of Nerv when Misato calls him to tell him Shinji won't be living with him anymore. <br />
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After Nerv found that there's an Angel in the game Kensuke spread around the school (called "Apocalypse of Night"), the Guardians train in a simulated world.<br />
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Toji and Hikari follow Kensuke to the school, where they witness Iruel materializing out of the computer. Kaji witnesses Kaworu and Rei fighting children controlled by Angels. Kaji, Toji, and Hikari are later caught by two other Angels and tied up. <br />
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After training, Shinji and Asuka enter a virtual world connected to the game that would allow them to find the Angel and retrieve its core. However, once in the virtual world, Asuka falls prey to a bug in the game and is separated from Shinji. Iruel poses as Asuka's parents, and it is revealed that Asuka was forced to kill them when they became Angels. Shinji is able to break Asuka out of the bug, and Iruel reveals itself to them.<br />
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==Characters==<br />
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===Guardians===<br />
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'''Kaworu Nagisa'''<br />
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[[Image:Kaworuforpage.png|thumb|left|Kaworu from Record of Heaven's Descent]]<br />
Kaworu Nagisa is a new transfer student to Nerv Foundation Academy. He excels in sports and academics, and often thinks about the philosophical aspects of existence. He is a good-natured, positive, caring person. While playing "Apocalypse of Night," his character was a fallen angel named Tabris. He is the leader of the Guardians, and his Eva takes the form of a white stylized sword. <br />
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He is the only human to be able to project an AT Field, and he can sense Angels. His body is devoid of any regenerative capabilities, so he must have parts replaced if he is injured. He has a strong attachment to Shinji. From time to time he remembers parts of his past from before Nerv was reformed after the "tragedy," and in these times he always sees himself in a surgical or hospital gown, and sometimes with bandages. He remembers Shinji from that time, and that rememberance reinforces his wish to be good friends with him. However, flashbacks hint at a time when his and Shinji's friendship was compromised. Kaworu also makes mention of a "promise" he's keeping. <br />
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He also says he won't double-cross Ritsuko (the way that this is possible has not yet been revealed), since he'll play along with their plan as long as Shinji's life remains intact. He also shows a fondness for Rei, and cares about her well-being. His reason to fight includes the wish to preserve the world that he says gave him life.<br />
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'''Rei Ayanami'''<br />
[[Image:Reiforpage.jpg|thumb|left|Rei from Record of Heaven's Descent]]<br />
Rei, like Kaworu, attends Nerv Foundation Academy, and is Shinji's classmate. She is quiet and withdrawn, much the same as her [[Rei Ayanami|original character]] but not unkind. She refrains from showing warm emotion and acting in a familiar fashion towards her classmates and fellow Guardians ,besides eating lunch with Kaworu. Her Eva manifests as a spear or lance, identical to the [[Spear of Longinus]], except in size, which she wields in battle. Rei is often seen reading a 'Growth/Development Report'. It is unclear whether this report actually defines her growth and development, and it seems likely that she only reads it out of either habit or instruction, as opposed to her own personal enjoyment. <br />
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Rei is unusually dedicated to Nerv and her missions. If one tells her that a certain job is a mission, she will put every ounce of energy into that task and perform it extremely well. Her fellow Guardians are aware of this trait, such as Asuka, who utilises it in order to have Rei learn new lines for a school play in a short amount of time. Kaworu states that Rei does not usually show interest in other people, but she seems concerned with Shinji's choices for the future and his development as a Guardian. <br />
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Rei also bears physical similarities to Yui Ikari, and it is known that she makes regular contact with Gendo Ikari. She feels that her reason for fighting is that if she does not follow orders that are given to her and participate in combat against the angels to the best of her abilities, she will posses no purpose, as she believes that her role as a Guardian is all that defines her. <br />
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'''Shinji Ikari'''<br />
[[Image:Shinjiforpage2.png|thumb|left|Shinji from Record of Heaven's Descent]]<br />
Shinji attends Nerv Foundation Academy, and is in the same class as the rest of the Guardians. His Eva takes the form of a gun. He originally was not included in Nerv's exploits with the Guardians, but he found a core under a vending machine. After, he became too deeply involved to back out (he followed Kaworu and Rei once, and destroyed Ramiel, before becoming a Guardian). <br />
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He was often plagued with uncertainty and fear in regard to fighting with the Guardians. At a time he even felt awkward around Kaworu. However, the pureness and level of satisfaction that he gets from his new-made friendships overrode his indecision, and so he vows to fight so he can live happily with his friends. Formerly unnerved by Kaworu's interest in him, he has since developed a strong friendship with him. He cares for Asuka, as he risked his life to break her out of the trap she fell into in the virtual world. Asuka often calls him a wimp and berates him for "playing the victim." She also has a grudge on him. He has a crush on Rei, and is embarrassed at the times that she holds his hand to lead him, or when he catches her when she is about to fall. <br />
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Shinji has very poor reflexes and isn't athletic, so he scores low on the tests designed for training the Guardians. It is said that the reason he can call forth an Eva is because he would be naturally compatible it. His mother's DNA was made as a base for the Evas. After his mother's death, Shinji was left at an orphanage or a special home, where he developed an expressionless face and empty eyes. Since being taken in by Kaji he has returned back to normal. When he met his father for the first time in years, he ran to him. However, he was pushed back and only asked if he was willing to fight. He seeks a connection with his father, but finds he has grown unusually cold towards him. <br />
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'''Asuka Langely Soryu'''<br />
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[[Image:Asukaforpage.png|thumb|left|Asuka from Record of Heaven's Descent]]Asuka is a Guardian and is in the same class as the rest of them. She can be sarcastic, boastful, and pretentious. She often yells at Shinji and makes little of him. Her Eva takes the form of a whip, and she considers herself an accomplished Guardian. <br />
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She didn't always live in Japan. Later it was revealed that she was created as part of a test at Nerv. Nerv wanted to see which was superior: Guardians made by artifical means or Guardians produced as offspring of former Guardians. This led to her parents putting a lot of expectations on her, which led her to stress and put a lot of importance into performing better than the other children. She ended up having to kill her parents because they became Angels, and this was a huge source of guilt for her. <br />
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Iruel used this to its advantage. In the virtual world trapped Asuka in a nightmare of these memories. Shinji was able to rescue her from Iruel, so maybe she will be more accepting of him. She refuses to spend a lot of time in public with Kaworu and Rei, because she doesn't want to be seen as being weird like they are.<br />
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===Nerv Personnel and Other Adults===<br />
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'''Kaji Ryoji'''<br />
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Kaji is a journalist who had a connection to Nerv in its past before the "tragedy." He says that one day he recieved a letter in the mail from Gendo telling him to take care of Shinji and enroll him in Nerv Foundation Academy. He did so, and before Nerv took Shinji under custody Kaji shared an apartment with him. Prone to late nights, he often at home has a disheveled appearance. He has been collecting data on the Angels and what he believes Nerv to be doing. However, he is told by Misato to keep out of Nerv's business. He's also interested in Misato.<br />
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'''Misato Katsuragi'''<br />
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Misato is the Guardians' teacher. She also serves as a tactical officer at Nerv. She may have once had a relationship with Kaji, but all that is certain is that they know each other personally and Kaji is interested in a relationship with her. She says that she doesn't delude herself into thinking that what Nerv does is right.<br />
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'''Gendo and Yui Ikari'''<br />
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Gendo Ikari is the Commander of Nerv. He is a cold, silent person who broke off contact with his son for a number of years. He was thought by Shinji and Kaji to have been dead until he appeared before Shinji at Nerv. His goal is to bring Yui "back." How this will conflict with the saving of the World Tree is unknown. Shinji says that he used to be different, back from when Shinji was a child. <br />
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Yui Ikari was lead researcher of the "pillars," which led the way to the development of the Evas. The Evas are imbued with her biological data as a base. During what is known as the "tragedy" of the Nerv organization, instead of fleeing the building she told Gendo (who tried to get her to leave) she had to do something, and went into a room. She didn't escape, because she was killed there.<br />
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==Manga vs. Anime==<br />
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The manga uses elements from the television series in new ways, while adding new ideas. The above about the use of cores and the World Tree being some examples of many.<br />
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'Evas' come in pods that get written into their DNA. They must focus their thoughts on their right hands to summon their Eva which varies as weapons depending on the character. Kaworu has a long sword with lettering on the hilt, Rei wields the Lance of Longinus, Asuka uses a whip and Shinji has a gun. <br />
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The Evas were created with Yui Ikari's biological data as the foundation. That is why Shinji is able to call forth an Eva without formal training. It is similar to Shinji's ability to sync with Unit-01 without prior training because its core contains his mother's soul.<br />
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Yui was killed during what members of the original Nerv organization refer to as the "tragedy." The events surrounding the tragedy have not been revealed yet. All that is known about Yui's death is that she told Gendo she had to do something, and would not escape the organization's building with him.<br />
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The Guardians attend a Catholic school called Nerv Foundation Academy. Shinji, Asuka, Rei and Kaworu's homeroom teacher is Misato Katsuragi.<br />
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Shinji does not live with his father, Gendo Ikari. He lives in an apartment with Kaji Ryoji, who says he is Shinji's guardian because Gendo is overseas. Yui Ikari is deceased, however. <br />
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Kaworu's body is unable to heal on it's own. He must be fixed with new body parts if they are damaged. Rei's body can heal on it's own, however. She is often seen with bandages while Shinji has noted that Kaworu never has any scars.<br />
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[[Category:A to Z]]</div>ReiAyanami25https://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=Talk:Evangelion_Unit-00&diff=72085Talk:Evangelion Unit-002012-02-22T23:34:30Z<p>ReiAyanami25: </p>
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<div>== What grammatical errors? ==<br />
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I don't see many errors, but they've been fixed so is it alright to remove the template? --Bee-Zerk, 9:52 14 June, 2008, (AEST)<br />
:Just glanced at it briefly, and things popped out at me, like incorrect capitalization and bizarre employment of dashes. More than likely other problems remain. The template stays. --[[User:Reichu|Reichu]] 19:32, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
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==Misc==<br />
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Eva 00's one eye is the red camera lense in front of its face; what the HECK are the white and green circles on its head? Further, I need confirmation on if Eva 00's right arm gets vaporized by the N2 bomb in Episode 19. Also, what color is Eva 00's blood, do we ever see it? --[[User:V|V]] 11:39, 1 October 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==On Production Model Evas==<br />
That's a blanket term for Evangelions from Eva-02 to Eva-04. All those Evangelions are "production models" and all of them have the same armor plate arrangement. Besides, those shoulder bulges are very prominent. --[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 18:22, 31 January 2009 (PST)<br />
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== what shoulder bulges? ==<br />
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WHAT SHOULDER BULGES?<br />
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http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Palace/9509/Evangelions/evamd00.jpg<br />
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I see no shoulder bulges.<br />
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==Pictures In The Rebuild Section==<br />
More images are needed to give an example of Unit 00's altered colouration in NME.<br />
I will attempt to find and take some screenshots of it soon, as the image of Zeruel consuming unit 00 does not seem to exhibit the alterations in Unit 00's design properly.In fact, it does not. --[[User:ReiAyanami25|ReiAyanami25]] 12:34, 23 February 2012 (PDT)</div>ReiAyanami25https://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=Talk:Evangelion_Unit-00&diff=72084Talk:Evangelion Unit-002012-02-22T23:33:13Z<p>ReiAyanami25: </p>
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<div>== What grammatical errors? ==<br />
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I don't see many errors, but they've been fixed so is it alright to remove the template? --Bee-Zerk, 9:52 14 June, 2008, (AEST)<br />
:Just glanced at it briefly, and things popped out at me, like incorrect capitalization and bizarre employment of dashes. More than likely other problems remain. The template stays. --[[User:Reichu|Reichu]] 19:32, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
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==Misc==<br />
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Eva 00's one eye is the red camera lense in front of its face; what the HECK are the white and green circles on its head? Further, I need confirmation on if Eva 00's right arm gets vaporized by the N2 bomb in Episode 19. Also, what color is Eva 00's blood, do we ever see it? --[[User:V|V]] 11:39, 1 October 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==On Production Model Evas==<br />
That's a blanket term for Evangelions from Eva-02 to Eva-04. All those Evangelions are "production models" and all of them have the same armor plate arrangement. Besides, those shoulder bulges are very prominent. --[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 18:22, 31 January 2009 (PST)<br />
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== what shoulder bulges? ==<br />
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WHAT SHOULDER BULGES?<br />
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http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Palace/9509/Evangelions/evamd00.jpg<br />
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I see no shoulder bulges.<br />
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==Pictures In The Rebuild Section==<br />
More images are needed to give an example of Unit 00's altered colouration in NME.<br />
I will attempt to find and take some screenshots of it soon, as the image of Zeruel consuming unit 00 does not seem to exhibit the alterations in Unit 00's design properly.In fact, it does not. --[[User:ReiAyanami25]] 12:34, 23 February 2012 (PDT)</div>ReiAyanami25https://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=Talk:Evangelion_Unit-00&diff=72083Talk:Evangelion Unit-002012-02-22T23:31:17Z<p>ReiAyanami25: </p>
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<div>== What grammatical errors? ==<br />
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I don't see many errors, but they've been fixed so is it alright to remove the template? --Bee-Zerk, 9:52 14 June, 2008, (AEST)<br />
:Just glanced at it briefly, and things popped out at me, like incorrect capitalization and bizarre employment of dashes. More than likely other problems remain. The template stays. --[[User:Reichu|Reichu]] 19:32, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
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==Misc==<br />
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Eva 00's one eye is the red camera lense in front of its face; what the HECK are the white and green circles on its head? Further, I need confirmation on if Eva 00's right arm gets vaporized by the N2 bomb in Episode 19. Also, what color is Eva 00's blood, do we ever see it? --[[User:V|V]] 11:39, 1 October 2007 (PDT)<br />
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==On Production Model Evas==<br />
That's a blanket term for Evangelions from Eva-02 to Eva-04. All those Evangelions are "production models" and all of them have the same armor plate arrangement. Besides, those shoulder bulges are very prominent. --[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 18:22, 31 January 2009 (PST)<br />
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== what shoulder bulges? ==<br />
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WHAT SHOULDER BULGES?<br />
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I see no shoulder bulges.<br />
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==Pictures In The Rebuild Section==<br />
More images are needed to give an example of Unit 00's altered colouration in NME.<br />
I will attempt to find and take some screenshots of it soon, as the image of Zeruel consuming unit 00 does not seem to exhibit the alterations in Unit 00's design properly.In fact, it does not.</div>ReiAyanami25https://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=Evangelion_Unit-00&diff=72082Evangelion Unit-002012-02-22T23:24:03Z<p>ReiAyanami25: </p>
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| name = Evangelion Unit-00<br />
| image = [[Image:22 C259D zero.jpg|260px|Eva-00]]<br />
| japanese = 零号機<br />
| model_type = Prototype<br />
| pilots = [[Rei Ayanami]]<br />
| soul = [[Rei Ayanami|Rei 1]][[Eva-00's soul|(Go ''here'' for why.)]] <br />
| first_sortie = [[Episode 06]]<br />
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'''Eva-00''' was the first operational [[Evangelions|Evangelion]]. Being a prototype, it was not originally equipped for combat, but was later upgraded and brought into battle against the Angels.<br />
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==Profile==<br />
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As is the case for all the Evangelions, except [[Eva-01]], the method of Eva-00's creation is not known. It is known, however, that she was the first working prototype after many failures. Whether the creation process was perfected with Eva-00, or if something new was tried would be pure conjecture. <br />
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What ''is'' known is that the original design for the prototype Eva had been created a long time ago; Fuyutsuki sees a mockup of Eva-00 in 2003, with the same orange and white color combination and the same head design. We also learn here that Eva-00 would have had a cluster of five cameras beneath its single eye lens.<br />
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Eva-00 is the most unstable of the Evangelions, going wildly berserk one two occasions; once during its activation experiment with [[Rei]], and again during its interchangeability experiment with [[Shinji]]. Despite these incidents Rei retains good control over the Eva once it is operational, using it successfully in quite sensitive tasks such as handling the [[Lance of Longinus]] on two occasions and both fetching and firing the SDF's positron cannon.<br />
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==Physical Features==<br />
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[[Image:Proposal_15_nerv-layout.jpg|100px|thumb|left|Eva-00(left) in the [[Neon Genesis Evangelion Proposal|Proposal]]]].<br />
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The Eva's face has never been revealed on-screen, being covered by the helmet and faceplate at all times. Unique to Eva-00 is the large optical lens on its faceplate. In addition, the faceplate lacks nostril holes or a proper jawline. Monitor readouts of the Evangelion's internal organs reveal that it actually has two eyes as well as nostrils and a jawline. The design of the helmet suggests that Eva-00's skull might be somewhat narrower than those of other Evangelions.<br />
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Eva-00 originally had orange armor and a different arrangement of plates from Eva-01 and the Production Model Evangelions, also, when first seen it does not have shoulder pylons attached. After sustaining severe damage from the Angel [[Ramiel]], Eva-00 was refitted with the same armour design as the Production Model Evangelions; Shoulder pylons were added, the armour plating was altered, and the colour scheme changed from the original orange to blue. The repaired Eva-00 is also seen to possess retro-rockets in her shoulder pylons in [[Episode 11]], as well as a [[Progressive Knife]], seen in [[Episode 12]].<br />
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An early Eva-00 design seen in the Proposal has a head design identical to that used in the show. In addition, the blue color scheme is very similar to that used in the repaired Eva-00.<br />
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==Soul==<br />
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The identity of the soul contained in Eva-00 is never ''directly'' stated, but analysis of various clues and hints dropped through the series points to it being the soul of Rei 1, the first Rei Ayanami clone(or a part thereof).<br />
:''For more in-depth analysis, see "[[Eva-00's soul]]"''<br />
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==Operational History==<br />
Evangelion Unit-00 has seen less action than the Test Type Eva-01 and the Production Model [[Eva-02]], and largely in an auxiliary role until the end. The Eva was occasionally used to transport critical equipment; one example was when it carried parts for the [[positron rifle]] in Episode 05 and the [[Spear of Longinus]] at the end of [[Episode 14]].<br />
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Although Eva-00 was the first working Evangelion out of a very long line of failed prototypes, it was not the first Evangelion to engage in combat with an Angel. That honor belongs to Eva-01. Eva-00 went berserk during an activation test 21 days before the Third Angel, [[Sachiel]], arrived. During the incident the entry plug was ejected, possibly by the Eva itself, resulting in serious injuries to the pilot, Rei Ayanami.<br />
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Following a successful activation test, Eva-00 went into battle against the Angel [[Ramiel]] in a critical support role, using a heat shield from an SSTO spacecraft to shield Eva-01 from the Angel's deadly particle beam. The Eva suffered severe thermal damage and had to undergo extensive repairs, including a complete replacement of the original orange armor by a new set of blue armor. Eva-00's new armor fit is identical to those used on Production Model Evangelions, including pylons.<br />
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Eva-00 saw combat again with the Ninth Angel, [[Matarael]], although as a backup player. It again went into combat against the Tenth Angel, [[Sahaquiel]], stopping it from overwhelming Eva-01 and opening its A.T. Field for Eva-02 to strike the fatal blow. The battle against the Angel [[Bardiel]] resulted in the loss it's left arm. Unit-00 suffered critical skull damage during the battle against the Angel [[Zeruel]].<br />
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The Eva finally got center stage during the battle against the orbital Angel [[Arael]], throwing the original Spear of Longinus to destroy the Angel. Unit-00 was lost in the battle with the Angel [[Armisael]], during which it self destructed to destroy the Angel.<br />
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==In Rebuild of Evangelion==<br />
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Eva-00's Rebuild design has slightly altered proportions as compared to Eva-00 in the Anime, as well as an altered color scheme. Instead of an overall orange color scheme, the Rebuild version includes gray, colored lower legs and slight color alterations to its arms and chest area, as well as a prominent gray "waistband". Similar to its fate in [[Episode 06]], it is severely damaged by the Angel [[Ramiel]]. <br />
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[[File:Zerueleateva00.png|200px|thumb|left|Zeruel about to swallow Eva-00.]] <br />
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In ''Evangelion 2.0'', Eva-00's armor has received a slight upgrade. Eva-00 plays a similar role in the battles with [[Sahaquiel]] and [[Bardiel]] compared to the original series. <br />
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The role of Eva-00 is drastically changed in the battle with [[Zeruel]], however. Evangelion Unit-00 launches to use an [[N² Weapon|N² Missile]] on Zeruel, which does not have any effect on the Angel this time around, either. Instead of simply dispatching of the Eva and moving on, Zeruel completely devours the Eva (except for the feet) and absorbs it and its pilot. The Tenth Angel's body swiftly reconfigures into a distorted female figure (from the neck down) and its pattern changes to that of Eva-00, which would have allowed it to penetrate Level EEE unmolested by the automated safeguards. After the Tenth has fallen, Eva-01 pulls the core of Eva-00, which contains the soul of Rei Ayanami, from the interior of the Angel's core, and the now-dead Angel's body fluid reassembles around the core into the figure of a giant red Rei.<br />
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<div>==Article question==<br />
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Eric Blair has an "in the works" summary/article of the Retake series as a whole...He wants to give it a scholarly feel which is probably why it's taking awhile (and he has tons of stuff he wants to expand on), but would an article like that be alright in place of a standard "here's the overall story" summary? Or would that sort of writeup fit better as an addition? --[[User:Sailor Star Dust|Sailor Star Dust]] 19:17, 19 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
:It's probably a good idea to keep "tl;dr" versions around, but we can add whatever he comes up with, too. --[[User:Reichu|Reichu]] 20:24, 19 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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==Corrections==<br />
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The article itself is really well written but, does it seem to be slightly informally written or something of that type? Still, for a first timer it's great and needs a bit more work. How do you think Ursus? --Bee-Zerk 20:52, 7 April, 2008 (AEST)<br />
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I had to correct a load of spelling mistakes, though. And the lines were coming in a rather odd pattern when I tried to edit them. Otherwise, I like it.--[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 03:57, 7 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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==Stop editing the wreckage back in==<br />
Guys, why edit out the spelling corrections and other changes I made? Editing back a mess doesn't help. And please don't make so many small edits here and there. You can type the text in word, spell-check, and then copy-paste it and preview it. A lot of errors can be caught and corrected in previews. In wiki editing, "Less is more", so as to speak. --[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 19:18, 7 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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Oh, you talking about me? Yeah, I had several edit conflicts during the time when you were editing as well so I had to leave the errors until some time. A few times I got a bit pissed off because I made one HUGE correction of the whole page and then it came up with edit conflict so I just kept on correcting the errors.<br />
And, for an adult, there's just far too many spelling errors. I can understand you're at work but you've got to improve your grammar and spelling. Like Ursus said, type it up on Word first, because then you can easily make any changes, or get a dictionary installed into your browser, or just use Firefox. --Bee-Zerk 15:57, 8 April, 2008 (AEST)<br />
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:Edit conflicts? No wonder. Sorry, I thought the wording had been brought back in. I got lost in the sheer number of edits made to the page.--[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 23:07, 7 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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I do type it up on word and use the spell check I don't understand why its not picking up the errors, although i do have grammar set to Australian and thats not being changed as I need it for work.--[[User:Zeak|Zeak]] 23:28, 7 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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It's not the American-Australian grammar/spelling problem, as the Wiki accepts both spelling standards, but I had a similar problem with Word about not picking up errors; I reinstalled it with an updated version and it worked fine. Perhaps check your settings for Word or just use Firefox. It has an integrated dictionary, so you can just write articles straightaway. Since computers can't detect every error, like some instances of grammar, you should be reading over it every couple of times to just check. --Bee-Zerk, 17:45, 8 April, 2008 (AEST)<br />
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Err I do and Im not reinstalling word because that means I have to take my pc back to work and do it ther which creates a hell of a lot of problems. also I do use Firefox and Word to do my editing and all the grammer appears correct. Also when I do post sometime (now for example) I cant use firefox or word to use processing and it all has to be general knoledge. I cant always use these resorces and a complete reinstall on the system is way out of the question I have toomuch imortant stuff I cant afford to lose although I have backups I would still lose the most current vertions.--[[User:Zeak|Zeak]] 08:06, 8 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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==Shorter synopses, please==<br />
Otherwise the text walls will be unbearable. A couple of sentences per volume should be the maximum; the article is not supposed to be a chapter-by-chapter rundown of the story. --[[User:Dr. Nick|Dr. Nick]] 11:42, 8 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:I have no idea where to begin with cutting it down to size.--[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 16:45, 8 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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Yeah, I agree, the information is great, but it's just one of those articles where, it's like everything seems right but it's not. It's not up to the Wiki's standards, that's for sure, but how? It'll be pretty hard to try and improve the "wordings". --[[User:Bee-Zerk|Bee-Zerk]] 15:56, 9 April 2008 (AEST)<br />
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DR NICK I honstly cant sum retake up in a few short sentences also I wrote is in such a way that if you had only just stumbled across retake you would want to read it. If there was a review on some of the other storys like this I would be all over them.--[[User:Zeak|Zeak]] 23:50, 10 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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Hmm...is there any way to shorten it so that it looks for standardized for the wiki? Otherwise, in my opinion, it's just too long and...well, not an exactly informative way to explain it, I think that's the closest word I could find though, any ideas? --Bee-Zerk 17:00, 11 April, 2008 (AEST)<br />
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:BZ, I don't think there's any "standardized way" for doing it, the paragraphs just need severe trimming and style checking. Zeak, if you're unable to "kill your darlings", just ask the other Retake fans on the forums to help you out; that's what the Wiki sub-forum is for. And this is just my opinion, but if your explicit purpose with the article is to attract new fans, you might want to cut down on spoilers. This page has potential, but it needs quite a bit of work ATM. --[[User:Dr. Nick|Dr. Nick]] 10:00, 11 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::Guys: I'll fix the volume summaries for this during the upcoming weekend. --[[User:Sailor Star Dust|Sailor Star Dust]] 17:26, 29 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:::Thank you, SSD, it's all looking much better now. --[[User:Dr. Nick|Dr. Nick]] 07:43, 22 May 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::::Glad I could help! ^_^ --[[User:Sailor Star Dust|Sailor Star Dust]] 10:19, 22 May 2008 (PDT)<br />
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==Official spelling==<br />
Re-Take, ReTake or Retake? Which is it? I see two different variants being used on the page. --[[User:Dr. Nick|Dr. Nick]] 10:03, 11 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
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If you want ideas on how to write a good, solid article, read the episode guides, even though they are in a mess. But for now stick to them as "revision". <br />
Oh, by the way, I think Re-Take would be a more "unconfusingly" way to write it, if you know what I mean.--Bee-Zerk 16:38, 13 April, 2008 (AEST)<br />
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I believe the correct spelling is Re-Take. --[[User:Sailor Star Dust|Sailor Star Dust]] 17:24, 29 April 2008 (PDT)<br />
==Article sections and divisions ==<br />
I think that there should be more sections added to the article, enabling us to write separate, '''short''' summaries for each volume of both the all ages and original editions of Re-Take. That would define the differences between them well, but we would have to keep the summaries of the volumes of the minimum, or else the page will be overrun with text, meaning that it would be laborious to read.--[[User:ReiAyanami25|ReiAyanami25]] 07:11, 14 January 2012<br />
== Changes ==<br />
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Hey guys I though seeming's it on the topic again I made a few updates. Hope nobody minds. I added a little bit into Retake0 and changed the notes section to soundtrack because that seemed a little more appropriate.--[[User:Zeak|Zeak]] 22:29, 8 July 2009 (PDT)</div>ReiAyanami25https://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=Sandalphon&diff=70427Sandalphon2011-12-05T08:36:33Z<p>ReiAyanami25: </p>
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{{Angel Infobox<br />
| name = Sandalphon<br />
| image = [[Image:Ep10 sandalphon.jpg|260px|Sandalphon]]<br />
| katakana =サンダルフォン<br />
| symbol = Embryo<br />
| number = 8th<br />
| appearances = [[Episode 10]]<br />
| defeated_by = [[Evangelion Unit-02|Eva-02]]<br />
| design = [[Hideaki Anno]]<ref>''[[Eva Tomo no Kai]]''.</ref><br />
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'''Sandalphon''' (Hebrew: סנדלפון) is the 8th Angel, discovered in an embryonic state, and annihilated, within the magma of [[Mount Asama]]. <br />
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Sandalphon's "adult" form is flattened, finned, and overall fish-like. The Cambrian Era (540-490 million years ago) aquatic predator [http://www.trilobites.info/anohome.html ''Anomalocaris''] has been cited as conceptual inspiration, and a couple of features carry over directly: the ring-shaped, ventrally-positioned mouth and the large eyes situated atop stalks. Sandalphon has long, sinuous arms that terminate in human-like hands, each with four fingers and a thumb; the spines on the digits mimic those of ''Anomalocaris''' feeding appendages. When it moves the arms are extended outward perpendicular to its body, like wings or fins. What appear to be a pair of mock eyes lie on the left side of the head, evoking the unusual optical arrangement of a flatfish. The Angel's [[core]] potentially lies beneath the left-hand "eye" (in battle, it is the target of two separate attacks by [[Asuka Langley Soryu|Asuka]]). <br />
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Sandalphon's physical constitution is specialized for the intense conditions within the volcano, to the point that even internal structures are uncompromised (indicated when it opens its mouth without adverse effect). As a result, a weapon such as the [[Progressive Knife]] is, normally, incapable of afflicting damage. Sandalphon is somewhat larger than an Evangelion, but still of close enough size to an Eva that they can engage in a fairly even melee combat. <br />
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The Angel is initially discovered in a embryonic state, vaguely resembling a human embryo and encased within a dark, elliptical cocoon-like object. When Sandalphon prepares to hatch, it vocalizes in the same manner as a human baby (however distorted) and proceeds to rearrange its mass into a new form. (The transformation is obscured by a blurry distortion, a convention in the show typically used to indicate the employment of an [[A.T. Field]].) <br />
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According to [[Ritsuko Akagi|Ritsuko]], Sandalphon's emergence occurs "much earlier than ... predicted", although no further elaboration is provided. To deepen the mystery, even in a subadult state, the Angel exceeds [[Adam|its own mother]] in size (in being larger than [[Evangelion Unit-02|Eva-02]]). Ritsuko also comments on the ovular object, "It's something like a chrysalis prior to reaching the adult stage". A chrysalis, or pupa, is a stage in the developmental cycle of some insects, which proceeds from egg to larva, to pupa, to adult. <br />
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For the comparison to be meaningful, Sandalphon would have needed to be in a free-roaming "larval" state (independent of the "chrysalis") at some point before it was first encountered. However, what is known about [[Adam|Adam's]] offspring (however sparse) makes this concept difficult to justify and leaves no evidence that they follow an insect's life cycle like this. Accordingly, the casing is should probably be equated more with an egg than with a chrysalis. <br />
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:''For more in-depth analysis, see "[[Theory and Analysis: Angels' Origins]]"''<br />
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==Battle==<br />
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After the Mt. Asama Earthquake Research Laboratory discovers the embryonic Sandalphon, [[Nerv]] undertakes an operation with the intention of capturing a live Angel. Eva-02 is deployed in D-Type Equipment -- specialized for protection against extreme heat, pressure, and radiation -- with a "catcher" capable of generating an electromagnetic cage. [[Evangelion Unit-01|Eva-01]] remains at the surface of the volcano as backup.<br />
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Although Eva-02 needs to be lowered further than the predicted depth to find the Angel, and loses her utility belt (together with the Progressive Knife) along the way, Sandalphon is successfully intercepted and captured. However, it soon rouses, transforms, and breaks free of the cage. With Sandalphon designated a target for annihilation, [[Shinji Ikari|Shinji]] throws Eva-01's knife down to [[Asuka Langley Soryu|Asuka]] to replace the one she had lost. After briefly breaking away, the Angel engages Eva-02.<br />
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Sandalphon plants its mouth over Eva-02's helmet, blocks her knife with its right hand, and clutches her left leg with the other, eventually damaging the suit and causing the leg to be detached below the knee. Due to the Angel's heavily reinforced physical constitution, the Progressive Knife is completely ineffective. At length, Asuka -- recalling an earlier interchange with Shinji about thermal expansion -- severs one of the suit's coolant tubes and forces it into Sandalphon's mouth. This, together with a renewed knife assault, eventually kills Sandalphon. No more than a couple of minutes after hatching, it dissolves into the magma without a trace.<br />
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==Notes==<br />
*Whether Sandalphon's actions are belligerent in nature is unknown: Although it appears to tear off Eva-02's left leg at one point, the script ascribes this to a blasting bolt; and whether or not it intentionally damages Eva-02's support line before dying is ambiguous. The "baby sounds" the Angel makes before hatching may imply that Sandalphon's mindset is actually that of an infant, and that its behavior might be interpreted accordingly. <br />
:For more in-depth analysis, see [[Theory and Analysis: Angel Psychology#Sandalphon|Angel Psychology]].<br />
*Sandalphon is named for the angel who, according to [[Kabbalism|Kabbalists]], plays a major role in determining the sex of a human embryo. <br />
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[[Category:Angels]]</div>ReiAyanami25https://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=Theory_and_Analysis:Kaworu%27s_Agenda&diff=70357Theory and Analysis:Kaworu's Agenda2011-11-23T20:40:32Z<p>ReiAyanami25: </p>
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==Kaworu & Seele==<br />
[[Image:24_C330_monoliths-lake.jpg|right|thumb|Kaworu & Seele "Lake" Scene]]<br />
[[Kaworu Nagisa|Kaworu]] has [[Adam]]'s soul but he has taken [[Lilin]] form. Therefore, the [[Angels]] are, in essense, his children. Thus one would expect that his goal would be to take back the Earth that is rightfully both his and the Angels'. However, we find out in this episode that Kaworu has been sent by [[Seele]]. Exactly what is the relationship be between them? We know that Seele’s goals are [[Third Impact]] and [[Human Instrumentality Project|Instrumentality]], but how does their plan involve Kaworu? Why was Kaworu was sent to [[Nerv]] by Seele? We are shown only one meeting between them, at the lake that was created when Eva-00 self- destructed.<br />
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===''Seele Plots''===<br />
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First however, we see Seele discussing [[Gendo Ikari|Gendo]] among themselves:<br />
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'''SEELE ??:''' "Nerv, the organization formed to be Seele's executive branch..." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "It was created in order to put our scenario into practice." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "But now, it has become an organization in the possession of one individual." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "Precisely, we must take it back." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "Before the promised day." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "Nerv and the Eva series must be in their true forms. Ikari, you will bear the responsibility of your malfeasance towards Seele." <br><br />
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Seele seems very upset at Gendo in this bit of dialogue. Mainly because they feel he’s betrayed them and taken over Nerv. Keel’s first sentence has to do with their plans for 3rd Impact, while the last ones seems to imply they have a plan to get back at Gendo. <br />
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===''The Lake Conversation''===<br />
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Next, Kaworu's conversation with Seele:<br />
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'''KAWORU:''' "Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "But there is one man who is trying to obtain power equal to that of God." <br><br />
'''SEELE 12:''' "There is a man, who is not one of us, attempting to open Pandora's Box once again." <br><br />
'''SEELE 04:''' "There is a man trying to close the box before the hope at the bottom appears." <br><br />
'''KAWORU:''' "Hope? You're saying that is the Lilim's hope?" <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "Hope exists in as many forms as there are people." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "And that is because hope only exists in the hearts of people." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "However, our hope is becoming substantiated." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "That is Lilith, the progenitor of mankind who are the false successors from the Black Moon." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "And Adam, the progenitor of the Angels who are the true successors from the lost White Moon." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "His salvaged soul exists only within you." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "However, his resurrected body already exists within Ikari." <br><br />
'''KAWORU:''' "Shinji's father... So, he is also the same as me." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "That is why we entrust you with our wish." <br><br />
'''KAWORU:''' "I know. That's why I'm here now after all." <br />
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'''MISATO:''' "It's no good. I can't read his lips from here. But he certainly is a shady character, going out for a walk so early in the morning to talk to himself. He noticed me? No, it's not possible." <br><br />
'''KAWORU:''' "All will be as the Lilin direct it." <br />
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This scene was not in the original version of [[Episode 24]] but was added in the [[Director's Cut Episodes|Director's Cut]] version, which is now considered canon. This is important because it's obvious Anno added this scene to tell us something (or several things). So what exactly are we seeing in this scene, and why can Misato see Kaworu ,but not Seele? One proposed explanation for Misato's confusion is that the conversation is a type of metaphysical flashback to an earlier conversation between Kaworu and Seele, thus Seele isn't actually there for Misato to see them. It is also possible that Seele and Kaworu are capable of conversing with each other without being present in the same place. Thus the conversation is taking place in real time, but Kaworu is the only participant present for Misato to see. <br />
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Whether flashback or realtime, they seem to be referring to their intentions and plans for Kaworu, and he seems to understand what they are saying. Thus this is likely not the first time they've discussed this. This scene also further illustrates Seele's growing frustration with Gendo. In it, they reveal to Kaworu that his (Adam's) resurrected body exists within Gendo. They also express their knowledge of the fact that Lilim are the false successors to the Earth from [[Lilith]] and the [[Black Moon]], and the Angels/Adam are the true successors from the [[White Moon]]. What is this telling us? They're expressing to Kaworu their hope here, but what is their hope? We know their ultimate goal, and that it is different than that of the Angels, so there is a very strong possibility that they are being deliberately deceptive, i.e. they are using Kaworu to achieve their goal while pretending to support that of the Angels.<br />
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It should also be noted that there are fifteen Seele Monoliths in this scene instead of the usual twelve. It has been theorized that this means that this is not really Seele, but is actually the ghosts of the dead Angels. This theory doesn't seem to hold up under examination, however. At this point in the series, the dead Angels only add up to fifteen if [[Israfel]] is counted as two Angels; no canon source does so, thus there should have only been fourteen. Also, from where would the Angels have derived their information on Gendo? Why would they appear to Kaworu as Seele? The conversation seems to only make sense in the context of Seele giving Kaworu a false mission. Thus it is likely that not all of Seele had appeared until this point.<br />
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==Kaworu & Shinji==<br />
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In Episode 24, we see Kaworu approach and befriend Shinji. Their first meeting is outside of Nerv, where they introduce themselves, and they also have two subsequent conversations before their final confrontation. But, why does Kaworu contact Shinji? Two possible explanations are: <br />
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*This was part of Seele’s plans. <br />
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*Kaworu contacted Shinji for reasons of his own, or even out of simple curiosity. <br />
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We know that Kaworu was sent to Nerv for some purpose, but we don't know exactly what that was. One possibility is that Seele had some plan for Shinji, or for his Eva. Thus they might have wanted Kaworu to do something for them that involved Shinji and/or Eva-01. For instance, they might have planned for Kaworu to be killed by Shinji after befriending him. Why would they want this? This idea is given some credence in EOE, in which Seele was seemingly relying on Shinji’s will to die, known as Thanatos, to initiate Third Impact. However, this seems to be precluded by the fact that the soldiers who attack Nerv in EOE have orders to kill all the pilots, including Shinji. Also, Seele seems to be "winging it" by that point. <br />
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Another way to read Seele's intent in sending Kaworu is that they simply sent him to die, possibly because all the Angels had to die before they could execute their version of third impact. This seems to be supported by Seele's dialogue as Kaworu begins his attack:<br />
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'''SEELE 02''': "Humans forget their foolishness and repeat their mistakes." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??''': "If humans do not redeem themselves willingly, they will not change." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??''': "We will not rely on the powers of Adam or the Angels." <br><br />
'''KEEL''': "Our only choice is to make changes with our own hands for the future. I will be praying that Unit 01 will accomplish its task." <br><br />
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These lines reveal that Seele plans on initiating Third Impact themselves, and that they hope that Unit-01 stops Kaworu. This would seem then to be the better explanation of why they sent Kaworu, but it does nothing to explain why Kaworu approached Shinji.<br />
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Thus the second possibility, Kaworu was acting on his own when he approached Shinji, seems more plausible. <br />
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==The Kaworu/Shinji Conversations==<br />
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Here are the conversation scenes between Kaworu and Shinji: <br />
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===''The First Contact''===<br />
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'''SHINJI''' (MONO): Everyone, including Toji and Kensuke, lost their homes and left. My friends... I don't have anyone I can call a friend anymore. There's no one. I can't go see Ayanami. I don't have the courage for it. I don't know how I'm supposed to face her. Asuka, Miss Misato, Mother... What should I... What should I do? <br><br />
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''Hears someone humming '''Ode to Joy''''' <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Singing is great. Singing enriches the soul. It's the crowning achievement of the civilization that the Lilin created. Don't you feel the same? Shinji Ikari?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "My name..." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Everyone knows your name. I don't mean to be rude, but I think you should be a little more aware of your position." <ref>This is very similar to something Kaji says to Shinji during their first conversation in [[Episode 08#Quotes|Episode 08]].</ref> <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "You think so? Who are you?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "I'm Kaworu, Kaworu Nagisa. One of the children that's part of the design, just like you.<br />
I'm the Fifth Children." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "The Fifth Children? You are? Nagisa?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "You can just call me Kaworu, Ikari." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "You can call me Shinji too." <br><br />
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This scene establishes that Shinji has become a true lost soul, with no one to turn to. Suddenly and unexpectedly he has a new friend!<br />
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===''In the Bath''===<br />
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'''ANNOUNCEMENT''': "Central Dogma is currently open. Please use Route 3 to transfer." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Hi, were you waiting for me?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "No, not really. That's not what I was..." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "What are you doing today?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Well, the regular tests are over, so all I have left is to take a shower and go home, but... But the truth is, lately, I don't really want to go home." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "A place to return to...The fact that you have a home will lead to your happiness. It's a very good thing." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "You think so?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "I'd like to talk more with you. May I come with you? To take a shower. You still need to go take one, right?" <br><br />
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'''Shinji''': "..." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Is that a no?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Oh, no, that's not what I meant." <br><br />
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'''Kaworu''': "You go to such extremes to avoid first contact. Are you afraid of connecting with other people? If you don't get close to others, you'll never be betrayed and you'll never hurt each other. But you'll also never be able to forget your loneliness. Humans can never banish their loneliness for good, because being human means being alone. But humans are able to go on with their lives because they're able to forget it every so often." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "It's time." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Is it over already?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Yeah, we better go to bed." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Together?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Oh, no! I think there's probably a room ready for you. A separate one." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "I see. Humans constantly feel pain in their hearts. Because the heart is so sensitive to pain, humans also feel that to live is to suffer. You're so delicate, like glass, especially your heart." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Me?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Yes, you have my regard for it." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Regard?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "It means, I love you." <br><br />
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Because Kaworu is actually Adam, he does not understand the Lilin, which likely explains his ruminations here. The Earth was supposed to be for him and the Angels, but Lilin dominate the earth. Kaworu has an obligation to The Angels, his children, to give them a home. Yet given this exchange and the dialogue later in the episode where Kaworu seems to be having a moral dilemma about killing the Lilin, he has begun to feel pity for them, considering how weak they are. . <br />
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His line of "it means, I love you" was important to Shinji, who had nobody to turn to at this point. Kaworu was the first person to openly express love for him, and that meant the world to Shinji, who was hopelessly lost.<br />
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===''The Sleepover''===<br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Come on, I'll sleep on the floor." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "It's okay. You're the one who's doing me a favor by letting me stay over. I'm fine where I am." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "What do you want to talk about? There are things you want me to hear, right?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "All sorts of things have happened since I came here. Before coming here, I used to live with my teacher. The days were peaceful. Nothing ever happened. I only had to exist there. But that was okay, because there was nothing I had to do." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Did you hate people?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Not really, I think it didn't matter, one way or another. But I did hate my father." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI (MONO)''': Why am I telling Kaworu all this? <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Maybe I was born so that I would meet you." <br><br />
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Kaworu seems both genuinely interested in Shinji’s plight, as well as that of the Lilin. The last line is likely directly related to his decision to be killed at the end of the episode. It seems that Kaworu sought out Shinji to gain insight into the Lilin species, and that the knowledge he gained lead him to the decision he made.<br />
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==The Finale==<br />
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The finale of 24’ occurs from the moment Kaworu hijacks Evangelion Unit-02 to his death at the hands of Shinji and Eva-01. Because of the sheer amount of content much of the dialogue will be broken down. <br />
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===''Panic on the Bridge''===<br />
Kaworu has hijacked Unit-02 and is heading towards Terminal Dogma. Those at Nerv are frantically trying to figure out what's going on. The scanners pick up an AT Field developing, and the scanner reads Kaworu as an Angel, finally revealing his true identity. <br />
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'''FUYUTSUKI''': "I never imagined Seele would send one directly to us." <br><br />
'''IKARI''': "The old men intend to step up the schedule by forcing our hand." <br><br />
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Gendo seems to believe Seele sent the Angel directly to them to force them into some sort of action that would speed Seele's agenda. The most likely interpretation of this line would be that Seele was impatient for the start of Instrumentality, and were therefore forcing him to destroy the final Angel, a necessity for Instrumentality, before he was ready to do so.<br />
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'''MISATO (OFF)''': "But why did the Angel take Unit 02?" <br><br />
'''FUYUTSUKI''': "Could it be planning to merge with Unit 02?" <br><br />
'''IKARI''': "Or possibly to bring about destruction." <br><br />
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But apparently Kaworu cant merge with Eva-02. (See his dialogue below.)<br />
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===''Shinji, Kaworu and Rei''===<br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Shinji's so late." <br><br />
'''MAN (OFF)''': "Eva Unit 01 heading down Route 2! In pursuit of target!" <br><br />
'''SHINJI''': "You betrayed me! You betrayed my feelings! You betrayed me, just like Father did!" <br><br />
'''KAWORU''': "I've been waiting for you, Shinji." <br><br />
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Kaworu wouldn't have waited for Shinji if he intended to wipe out mankind. It’s possible even at this late point Kaworu was not yet sure what he was going to do. His following ruminations seem to imply that he was waiting for Shinji to help him make his final decision, if even in an indirect manner. <br />
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'''KAWORU''': "The Eva series. Born from Adam, they are an abhorrent existence for humans. And the Lilin will even use them in order to survive. I can't understand." <br><br />
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Kaworu here reveals the Evas true nature. He doesn't understand why humans would use the very things that tried to destroy them in Second Impact in order to survive. <br />
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'''KAWORU''': "The Evas are made of the same body as I am. Because I am born from Adam as well. I could merge with them, if only they didn't have souls. Unit 02's soul has shut itself away for now." <br><br />
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Shinji strikes at Kaworu but is blocked. Kaworu then tells Shinji of the true nature of the A.T. Field:<br />
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'''SHINJI''': "An AT Field!" <br><br />
'''KAWORU''': "That's right. That's what you Lilin call it. The sacred domain where none may trespass. The light of the soul. Lilin, you know, don't you? That the AT Field is the wall that everyone has in their heart?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU (MONO)''': The fate of man... The hope of man is written in sorrow. <br><br />
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'''HYUGA''': "It's an AT Field!" <br><br />
'''AOBA''': "The same kind of AT Field that we saw earlier has developed near the barrier around Terminal Dogma!" <br><br />
'''IBUKI''': "It's entering the barrier! <br><br />
'''MISATO''': "It can't be! Another Angel?!" <br><br />
'''AOBA''': "It's no good! We can't confirm that! Oh, no, it disappeared!" <br><br />
'''MISATO''': "Disappeared?! The Angel did?!" <br><br />
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===''Kaworu's Epiphany''===<br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Adam, our mother. Must all who were born of Adam return to Adam? Even at the cost of destroying humanity? No! This is... Lilith? I see, so that's what this is about, Lilin." <br><br />
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Here Kaworu is expressing doubts as to whether his instinctive mission to wipe out man and give the world to his own kind is right and proper. Then his realization that this is Lilith, not Adam, somehow seems to be the final piece of the puzzle. At last he has a complete understanding of the situation.<ref>Japanese has a more nuanced view of "no" than does English, using different words depending upon whether the speaker means "No, I refuse", "No, that is incorrect", ect. In this case Kaworu says "Chigau! Kore wa... Ririsu? (Lilith)!" Chigau means "to differ", and thus in this context, "No, this is different than I thought.". While the more likely interpretation of the line is "No, this isn't Adam, this is Lilith", as Kaowru was just questioning his instinctive mission to destroy mankind, it could also be intrepreted as meaning "No, because I now realize that this is Lilith, I don't have to destroy them." It could also be serving both purposes at once.</ref><br />
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However, this brings us to one of the most curious and debated moments in the series. As originally broadcast, the episode did not include the "lake conversation" between Seele and Kaworu. Kaworu thus seemed to have genuinely confused Adam and Lilith. However, with the addition of the lake scene, Kaworu knows that Adam has become part of Gendo. Why would he also think that this was Adam on the cross?<br />
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One possibility is that this is simply a continuity error, and that they somehow didn't notice the contradiction. This, however, doesn't seem very likely. In [[Episode 15]] we were told the being in Terminal Dogma was Adam; that it is actually Lilith is the central revelation of Episode 24. It seems very unlikely that they would just forget about this scene when they wrote the new material. <ref>If Kaworu is actually confused about something he had been explicitly told it wouldn't be the first time that happened in this episode. Misato seems surprised that Kaworu is an Angel despite having already been told this by Ritsuko.</ref><br />
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Another possibility is that Kaworu interpreted Seele's line as meaning that Gendo had become one with ''part'' of Adam. The Evas are already of the same body as Kaworu and Adam, couldn't the thing that Gendo had absorbed be similar? <br />
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This is a little better than the "continuity error" theory, but there remains another tantalizing possibility. Perhaps Kaworu was playing to an audience. We have already been shown that Rei is witnessing this scene. At the end of the scene Kaworu acknowledges her presence by looking directly at her . We've also been shown earlier in the episode that Kaworu has trying to give Rei clues about her identity:<br />
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'''KAWORU''': "You're the First Child, aren't you? Rei Ayanami... <br />
You're the same as me. So, both of us ended up in the same form as the Lilin <br />
while we inhabit this planet." <br><br />
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'''REI''': "Who are you?" <br><br />
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Thus it is a very real possibility that Kaworu did, in fact know all along that he was seeing Lilith, and was playacting at being surprised because he wanted to tell Rei "this is Lilith". This has been dubbed the "Casablanca Theory" <ref>After the famous scene where Claude Rains, as Captain Renault, who has been ordered to find a pretext for shutting down Rick's Cafe, denounces Rick for conducting gambling while collecting his winnings. <br />
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'''Capt. Renault''': "I'm shocked Rick, shocked to find gambling going on here!" <br><br />
'''Purser''': "Your winnings, sir." </ref> because Kaworu is apparently expressing false surprise. <br />
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====''A Smile of Betrayal''====<br />
However, it should be noted that in the [[Full OP|Full Opening]] this smile is captioned ''"uragiri no hohoemi"'': ''"a smile of betrayal"''. This caption was written by Anno<ref>OP CREW page on the Renewal "01 TEST-TYPE" DVD. Anno is listed under テロップ協カ (Teroppu kyouryoku), or "caption cooperation/collaboration".</ref> , thus it should be considered powerful Second Tier Cannon, but it seems to muddy the waters even more. Just who is being betrayed here? It's Rei that he's smiling at, but it's hard to think of a way that he is betraying her.<br />
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Some possibilities:<br />
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*Kaworu is betraying Shinji by deliberately trying to break his spirit. This would seem to support the notion that Seele sent Kaworu to make shinji receptive to starting Third Impact. But once again, this seems to ruled out by the fact that the soldiers in EOE had orders to kill all the pilots, including Shinji.<br />
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*Kaworu is betraying Seele by deliberately failing at his mission. That is, he was ''supposed'' to contact Lilith. According to the [[Classified Information (Translation)#Angel|Classified Information]] this would reset all life, as opposed to the disastrous reset plus an "Adam based ecosystem" that would result if an Angel succeeded in reviving Adam. <ref>See [[Classified Information (Translation)#Second Impact|the Classified Information]] for more details.</ref>. Perhaps this "Lilith-based reset" is what Seele wanted, and now that all the other Angels were dead it was safe to carry out their plan. Once again however, this seems to be refuted by Seele themselves hoping that Eva-01 stops Kaworu. <br />
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*The remaining possibility that easily comes to mind is that Kaworu is betraying his fellow Angels by dying and denying them the chance to seize the Earth from the Lilin, but it's hard to understand how he could possibly communicate this to Rei with a smile.<br />
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Thus exactly what Anno was getting at with the reference to "a smile of betrayal" is not known.<br />
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===''Erase me from this World''=== <br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Thank you, Shinji. I wanted you to stop Unit 02. Otherwise, I may have gone on living with her." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Kaworu, why?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Because it's my destiny to continue to live even if it may result in the destruction of humanity. But I can also die here. Life and death are of equal value to me. Dying of your own will. That is the one and only absolute freedom there is." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "What? Kaworu, I don't understand what you're saying! Kaworu..." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "My last will and testament. Now, erase me from this world. If you don't, you will be the ones who are erased. Only one life form will be chosen to survive the time of destruction and be given a future. And you are not a being who should die. Your people need the future." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Thank you. I'm glad I met you." <br><br />
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So Kaworu decided to sacrifice his own life to save the Lilin. In fact, it seems that he had to die so that Lilith's progeny could live. <br />
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"''Now, erase me from this world. If you don't, you will be the ones who are erased.'' "<br />
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This seems to indicate that Kaworu couldn't just abandon his mission or switch sides. If Shinji chooses not to kill him, his Angelic instinct will compel him to contact Lilith, which is apparently just as bad as if it were Adam. <ref>See [[Classified Information (Translation)#Angel|the Classified Information]] for more details.</ref><br />
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==Kaworu & Seele==<br />
[[Image:24_C330_monoliths-lake.jpg|right|thumb|Kaworu & Seele "Lake" Scene]]<br />
[[Kaworu Nagisa|Kaworu]] has [[Adam]]'s soul but he has taken [[Lilin]] form. Therefore, the [[Angels]] are, in essense, his children. Thus one would expect that his goal would be to take back the Earth that is rightfully both his and the Angels'. However, we find out in this episode that Kaworu has been sent by [[Seele]]. Exactly what is the relationship be between them? We know that Seele’s goals are [[Third Impact]] and [[Human Instrumentality Project|Instrumentality]], but how does their plan involve Kaworu? Why was Kaworu was sent to [[Nerv]] by Seele? We are shown only one meeting between them, at the lake that was created when Eva-00 self- destructed.<br />
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===''Seele Plots''===<br />
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First however, we see Seele discussing [[Gendo Ikari|Gendo]] among themselves:<br />
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'''SEELE ??:''' "Nerv, the organization formed to be Seele's executive branch..." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "It was created in order to put our scenario into practice." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "But now, it has become an organization in the possession of one individual." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "Precisely, we must take it back." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "Before the promised day." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "Nerv and the Eva series must be in their true forms. Ikari, you will bear the responsibility of your malfeasance towards Seele." <br><br />
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Seele seems very upset at Gendo in this bit of dialogue. Mainly because they feel he’s betrayed them and taken over Nerv. Keel’s first sentence has to do with their plans for 3rd Impact, while the last ones seems to imply they have a plan to get back at Gendo. <br />
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===''The Lake Conversation''===<br />
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Next, Kaworu's conversation with Seele:<br />
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'''KAWORU:''' "Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "But there is one man who is trying to obtain power equal to that of God." <br><br />
'''SEELE 12:''' "There is a man, who is not one of us, attempting to open Pandora's Box once again." <br><br />
'''SEELE 04:''' "There is a man trying to close the box before the hope at the bottom appears." <br><br />
'''KAWORU:''' "Hope? You're saying that is the Lilim's hope?" <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "Hope exists in as many forms as there are people." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "And that is because hope only exists in the hearts of people." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "However, our hope is becoming substantiated." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "That is Lilith, the progenitor of mankind who are the false successors from the Black Moon." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "And Adam, the progenitor of the Angels who are the true successors from the lost White Moon." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "His salvaged soul exists only within you." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "However, his resurrected body already exists within Ikari." <br><br />
'''KAWORU:''' "Shinji's father... So, he is also the same as me." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "That is why we entrust you with our wish." <br><br />
'''KAWORU:''' "I know. That's why I'm here now after all." <br />
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(Misato is shown to be spying on Kaworu)<br />
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'''MISATO:''' "It's no good. I can't read his lips from here. But he certainly is a shady character, going out for a walk so early in the morning to talk to himself. He noticed me? No, it's not possible." <br><br />
'''KAWORU:''' "All will be as the Lilin direct it." <br />
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This scene was not in the original version of [[Episode 24]] but was added in the [[Director's Cut Episodes|Director's Cut]] version, which is now considered canon. This is important because it's obvious Anno added this scene to tell us something (or several things). So what exactly are we seeing in this scene, and why can Misato see Kaworu ,but not Seele? One proposed explanation for Misato's confusion is that the conversation is a type of metaphysical flashback to an earlier conversation between Kaworu and Seele, thus Seele isn't actually there for Misato to see them. It is also possible that Seele and Kaworu are capable of conversing with each other without being present in the same place. Thus the conversation is taking place in real time, but Kaworu is the only participant present for Misato to see. <br />
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Whether flashback or realtime, they seem to be referring to their intentions and plans for Kaworu, and he seems to understand what they are saying. Thus this is likely not the first time they've discussed this. This scene also further illustrates Seele's growing frustration with Gendo. In it, they reveal to Kaworu that his (Adam's) resurrected body exists within Gendo. They also express their knowledge of the fact that Lilim are the false successors to the Earth from [[Lilith]] and the [[Black Moon]], and the Angels/Adam are the true successors from the [[White Moon]]. What is this telling us? They're expressing to Kaworu their hope here, but what is their hope? We know their ultimate goal, and that it is different than that of the Angels, so there is a very strong possibility that they are being deliberately deceptive, i.e. they are using Kaworu to achieve their goal while pretending to support that of the Angels.<br />
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It should also be noted that there are fifteen Seele Monoliths in this scene instead of the usual twelve. It has been theorized that this means that this is not really Seele, but is actually the ghosts of the dead Angels. This theory doesn't seem to hold up under examination, however. At this point in the series, the dead Angels only add up to fifteen if [[Israfel]] is counted as two Angels; no canon source does so, thus there should have only been fourteen. Also, from where would the Angels have derived their information on Gendo? Why would they appear to Kaworu as Seele? The conversation seems to only make sense in the context of Seele giving Kaworu a false mission. Thus it is likely that not all of Seele had appeared until this point.<br />
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==Kaworu & Shinji==<br />
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In Episode 24, we see Kaworu approach and befriend Shinji. Their first meeting is outside of Nerv, where they introduce themselves, and they also have two subsequent conversations before their final confrontation. But, why does Kaworu contact Shinji? Two possible explanations are: <br />
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*This was part of Seele’s plans. <br />
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*Kaworu contacted Shinji for reasons of his own, or even out of simple curiosity. <br />
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We know that Kaworu was sent to Nerv for some purpose, but we don't know exactly what that was. One possibility is that Seele had some plan for Shinji, or for his Eva. Thus they might have wanted Kaworu to do something for them that involved Shinji and/or Eva-01. For instance, they might have planned for Kaworu to be killed by Shinji after befriending him. Why would they want this? This idea is given some credence in EOE, in which Seele was seemingly relying on Shinji’s will to die, known as Thanatos, to initiate Third Impact. However, this seems to be precluded by the fact that the soldiers who attack Nerv in EOE have orders to kill all the pilots, including Shinji. Also, Seele seems to be "winging it" by that point. <br />
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Another way to read Seele's intent in sending Kaworu is that they simply sent him to die, possibly because all the Angels had to die before they could execute their version of third impact. This seems to be supported by Seele's dialogue as Kaworu begins his attack:<br />
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'''SEELE 02''': "Humans forget their foolishness and repeat their mistakes." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??''': "If humans do not redeem themselves willingly, they will not change." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??''': "We will not rely on the powers of Adam or the Angels." <br><br />
'''KEEL''': "Our only choice is to make changes with our own hands for the future. I will be praying that Unit 01 will accomplish its task." <br><br />
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These lines reveal that Seele plans on initiating Third Impact themselves, and that they hope that Unit-01 stops Kaworu. This would seem then to be the better explanation of why they sent Kaworu, but it does nothing to explain why Kaworu approached Shinji.<br />
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Thus the second possibility, Kaworu was acting on his own when he approached Shinji, seems more plausible. <br />
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==The Kaworu/Shinji Conversations==<br />
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Here are the conversation scenes between Kaworu and Shinji: <br />
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===''The First Contact''===<br />
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'''SHINJI''' (MONO): Everyone, including Toji and Kensuke, lost their homes and left. My friends... I don't have anyone I can call a friend anymore. There's no one. I can't go see Ayanami. I don't have the courage for it. I don't know how I'm supposed to face her. Asuka, Miss Misato, Mother... What should I... What should I do? <br><br />
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''Hears someone humming '''Ode to Joy''''' <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Singing is great. Singing enriches the soul. It's the crowning achievement of the civilization that the Lilin created. Don't you feel the same? Shinji Ikari?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "My name..." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Everyone knows your name. I don't mean to be rude, but I think you should be a little more aware of your position." <ref>This is very similar to something Kaji says to Shinji during their first conversation in [[Episode 08#Quotes|Episode 08]].</ref> <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "You think so? Who are you?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "I'm Kaworu, Kaworu Nagisa. One of the children that's part of the design, just like you.<br />
I'm the Fifth Children." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "The Fifth Children? You are? Nagisa?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "You can just call me Kaworu, Ikari." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "You can call me Shinji too." <br><br />
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This scene establishes that Shinji has become a true lost soul, with no one to turn to. Suddenly and unexpectedly he has a new friend!<br />
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===''In the Bath''===<br />
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'''ANNOUNCEMENT''': "Central Dogma is currently open. Please use Route 3 to transfer." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Hi, were you waiting for me?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "No, not really. That's not what I was..." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "What are you doing today?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Well, the regular tests are over, so all I have left is to take a shower and go home, but... But the truth is, lately, I don't really want to go home." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "A place to return to...The fact that you have a home will lead to your happiness. It's a very good thing." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "You think so?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "I'd like to talk more with you. May I come with you? To take a shower. You still need to go take one, right?" <br><br />
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'''Shinji''': "..." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Is that a no?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Oh, no, that's not what I meant." <br><br />
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'''Kaworu''': "You go to such extremes to avoid first contact. Are you afraid of connecting with other people? If you don't get close to others, you'll never be betrayed and you'll never hurt each other. But you'll also never be able to forget your loneliness. Humans can never banish their loneliness for good, because being human means being alone. But humans are able to go on with their lives because they're able to forget it every so often." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "It's time." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Is it over already?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Yeah, we better go to bed." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Together?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Oh, no! I think there's probably a room ready for you. A separate one." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "I see. Humans constantly feel pain in their hearts. Because the heart is so sensitive to pain, humans also feel that to live is to suffer. You're so delicate, like glass, especially your heart." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Me?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Yes, you have my regard for it." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Regard?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "It means, I love you." <br><br />
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Because Kaworu is actually Adam, he does not understand the Lilin, which likely explains his ruminations here. The Earth was supposed to be for him and the Angels, but Lilin dominate the earth. Kaworu has an obligation to The Angels, his children, to give them a home. Yet given this exchange and the dialogue later in the episode where Kaworu seems to be having a moral dilemma about killing the Lilin, he has begun to feel pity for them, considering how weak they are. . <br />
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His line of "it means, I love you" was important to Shinji, who had nobody to turn to at this point. Kaworu was the first person to openly express love for him, and that meant the world to Shinji, who was hopelessly lost.<br />
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===''The Sleepover''===<br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Come on, I'll sleep on the floor." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "It's okay. You're the one who's doing me a favor by letting me stay over. I'm fine where I am." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "What do you want to talk about? There are things you want me to hear, right?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "All sorts of things have happened since I came here. Before coming here, I used to live with my teacher. The days were peaceful. Nothing ever happened. I only had to exist there. But that was okay, because there was nothing I had to do." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Did you hate people?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Not really, I think it didn't matter, one way or another. But I did hate my father." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI (MONO)''': Why am I telling Kaworu all this? <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Maybe I was born so that I would meet you." <br><br />
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Kaworu seems both genuinely interested in Shinji’s plight, as well as that of the Lilin. The last line is likely directly related to his decision to be killed at the end of the episode. It seems that Kaworu sought out Shinji to gain insight into the Lilin species, and that the knowledge he gained lead him to the decision he made.<br />
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==The Finale==<br />
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The finale of 24’ occurs from the moment Kaworu hijacks Evangelion Unit-02 to his death at the hands of Shinji and Eva-01. Because of the sheer amount of content much of the dialogue will be broken down. <br />
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===''Panic on the Bridge''===<br />
Kaworu has hijacked Unit-02 and is heading towards Terminal Dogma. Those at Nerv are frantically trying to figure out what's going on. The scanners pick up an AT Field developing, and the scanner reads Kaworu as an Angel, finally revealing his true identity. <br />
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'''FUYUTSUKI''': "I never imagined Seele would send one directly to us." <br><br />
'''IKARI''': "The old men intend to step up the schedule by forcing our hand." <br><br />
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Gendo seems to believe Seele sent the Angel directly to them to force them into some sort of action that would speed Seele's agenda. The most likely interpretation of this line would be that Seele was impatient for the start of Instrumentality, and were therefore forcing him to destroy the final Angel, a necessity for Instrumentality, before he was ready to do so.<br />
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'''MISATO (OFF)''': "But why did the Angel take Unit 02?" <br><br />
'''FUYUTSUKI''': "Could it be planning to merge with Unit 02?" <br><br />
'''IKARI''': "Or possibly to bring about destruction." <br><br />
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But apparently Kaworu cant merge with Eva-02. (See his dialogue below.)<br />
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===''Shinji, Kaworu and Rei''===<br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Shinji's so late." <br><br />
'''MAN (OFF)''': "Eva Unit 01 heading down Route 2! In pursuit of target!" <br><br />
'''SHINJI''': "You betrayed me! You betrayed my feelings! You betrayed me, just like Father did!" <br><br />
'''KAWORU''': "I've been waiting for you, Shinji." <br><br />
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Kaworu wouldn't have waited for Shinji if he intended to wipe out mankind. It’s possible even at this late point Kaworu was not yet sure what he was going to do. His following ruminations seem to imply that he was waiting for Shinji to help him make his final decision, if even in an indirect manner. <br />
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'''KAWORU''': "The Eva series. Born from Adam, they are an abhorrent existence for humans. And the Lilin will even use them in order to survive. I can't understand." <br><br />
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Kaworu here reveals the Evas true nature. He doesn't understand why humans would use the very things that tried to destroy them in Second Impact in order to survive. <br />
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'''KAWORU''': "The Evas are made of the same body as I am. Because I am born from Adam as well. I could merge with them, if only they didn't have souls. Unit 02's soul has shut itself away for now." <br><br />
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Shinji strikes at Kaworu but is blocked. Kaworu then tells Shinji of the true nature of the A.T. Field:<br />
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'''SHINJI''': "An AT Field!" <br><br />
'''KAWORU''': "That's right. That's what you Lilin call it. The sacred domain where none may trespass. The light of the soul. Lilin, you know, don't you? That the AT Field is the wall that everyone has in their heart?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU (MONO)''': The fate of man... The hope of man is written in sorrow. <br><br />
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'''HYUGA''': "It's an AT Field!" <br><br />
'''AOBA''': "The same kind of AT Field that we saw earlier has developed near the barrier around Terminal Dogma!" <br><br />
'''IBUKI''': "It's entering the barrier! <br><br />
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'''AOBA''': "It's no good! We can't confirm that! Oh, no, it disappeared!" <br><br />
'''MISATO''': "Disappeared?! The Angel did?!" <br><br />
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===''Kaworu's Epiphany''===<br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Adam, our mother. Must all who were born of Adam return to Adam? Even at the cost of destroying humanity? No! This is... Lilith? I see, so that's what this is about, Lilin." <br><br />
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However, this brings us to one of the most curious and debated moments in the series. As originally broadcast, the episode did not include the "lake conversation" between Seele and Kaworu. Kaworu thus seemed to have genuinely confused Adam and Lilith. However, with the addition of the lake scene, Kaworu knows that Adam has become part of Gendo. Why would he also think that this was Adam on the cross?<br />
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One possibility is that this is simply a continuity error, and that they somehow didn't notice the contradiction. This, however, doesn't seem very likely. In [[Episode 15]] we were told the being in Terminal Dogma was Adam; that it is actually Lilith is the central revelation of Episode 24. It seems very unlikely that they would just forget about this scene when they wrote the new material. <ref>If Kaworu is actually confused about something he had been explicitly told it wouldn't be the first time that happened in this episode. Misato seems surprised that Kaworu is an Angel despite having already been told this by Ritsuko.</ref><br />
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Another possibility is that Kaworu interpreted Seele's line as meaning that Gendo had become one with ''part'' of Adam. The Evas are already of the same body as Kaworu and Adam, couldn't the thing that Gendo had absorbed be similar? <br />
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This is a little better than the "continuity error" theory, but there remains another tantalizing possibility. Perhaps Kaworu was playing to an audience. We have already been shown that Rei is witnessing this scene. At the end of the scene Kaworu acknowledges her presence by looking directly at her . We've also been shown earlier in the episode that Kaworu has trying to give Rei clues about her identity:<br />
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'''KAWORU''': "You're the First Child, aren't you? Rei Ayanami... <br />
You're the same as me. So, both of us ended up in the same form as the Lilin <br />
while we inhabit this planet." <br><br />
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'''REI''': "Who are you?" <br><br />
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Thus it is a very real possibility that Kaworu did, in fact know all along that he was seeing Lilith, and was playacting at being surprised because he wanted to tell Rei "this is Lilith". This has been dubbed the "Casablanca Theory" <ref>After the famous scene where Claude Rains, as Captain Renault, who has been ordered to find a pretext for shutting down Rick's Cafe, denounces Rick for conducting gambling while collecting his winnings. <br />
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'''Capt. Renault''': "I'm shocked Rick, shocked to find gambling going on here!" <br><br />
'''Purser''': "Your winnings, sir." </ref> because Kaworu is apparently expressing false surprise. <br />
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====''A Smile of Betrayal''====<br />
However, it should be noted that in the [[Full OP|Full Opening]] this smile is captioned ''"uragiri no hohoemi"'': ''"a smile of betrayal"''. This caption was written by Anno<ref>OP CREW page on the Renewal "01 TEST-TYPE" DVD. Anno is listed under テロップ協カ (Teroppu kyouryoku), or "caption cooperation/collaboration".</ref> , thus it should be considered powerful Second Tier Cannon, but it seems to muddy the waters even more. Just who is being betrayed here? It's Rei that he's smiling at, but it's hard to think of a way that he is betraying her.<br />
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Some possibilities:<br />
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*Kaworu is betraying Shinji by deliberately trying to break his spirit. This would seem to support the notion that Seele sent Kaworu to make shinji receptive to starting Third Impact. But once again, this seems to ruled out by the fact that the soldiers in EOE had orders to kill all the pilots, including Shinji.<br />
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*Kaworu is betraying Seele by deliberately failing at his mission. That is, he was ''supposed'' to contact Lilith. According to the [[Classified Information (Translation)#Angel|Classified Information]] this would reset all life, as opposed to the disastrous reset plus an "Adam based ecosystem" that would result if an Angel succeeded in reviving Adam. <ref>See [[Classified Information (Translation)#Second Impact|the Classified Information]] for more details.</ref>. Perhaps this "Lilith-based reset" is what Seele wanted, and now that all the other Angels were dead it was safe to carry out their plan. Once again however, this seems to be refuted by Seele themselves hoping that Eva-01 stops Kaworu. <br />
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*The remaining possibility that easily comes to mind is that Kaworu is betraying his fellow Angels by dying and denying them the chance to seize the Earth from the Lilin, but it's hard to understand how he could possibly communicate this to Rei with a smile.<br />
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Thus exactly what Anno was getting at with the reference to "a smile of betrayal" is not known.<br />
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===''Erase me from this World''=== <br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Thank you, Shinji. I wanted you to stop Unit 02. Otherwise, I may have gone on living with her." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Kaworu, why?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Because it's my destiny to continue to live even if it may result in the destruction of humanity. But I can also die here. Life and death are of equal value to me. Dying of your own will. That is the one and only absolute freedom there is." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "What? Kaworu, I don't understand what you're saying! Kaworu..." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "My last will and testament. Now, erase me from this world. If you don't, you will be the ones who are erased. Only one life form will be chosen to survive the time of destruction and be given a future. And you are not a being who should die. Your people need the future." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Thank you. I'm glad I met you." <br><br />
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So Kaworu decided to sacrifice his own life to save the Lilin. In fact, it seems that he had to die so that Lilith's progeny could live. <br />
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"''Now, erase me from this world. If you don't, you will be the ones who are erased.'' "<br />
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This seems to indicate that Kaworu couldn't just abandon his mission or switch sides. If Shinji chooses not to kill him, his Angelic instinct will compel him to contact Lilith, which is apparently just as bad as if it were Adam. <ref>See [[Classified Information (Translation)#Angel|the Classified Information]] for more details.</ref><br />
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Kaworu's choice likely came from his meeting with Shinji, which made him realize that the Lilin needed the Earth more.<br />
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==References==<br />
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[[Category:Theory and Analysis]]</div>ReiAyanami25https://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=Theory_and_Analysis:Kaworu%27s_Agenda&diff=70355Theory and Analysis:Kaworu's Agenda2011-11-23T19:08:37Z<p>ReiAyanami25: </p>
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==Kaworu & Seele==<br />
[[Image:24_C330_monoliths-lake.jpg|right|thumb|Kaworu & Seele "Lake" Scene]]<br />
[[Kaworu Nagisa|Kaworu]] has [[Adam]]'s soul but he has taken [[Lilin]] form. Therefore, the [[Angels]] are, in essense, his children. Thus one would expect that his goal would be to take back the Earth that is rightfully both his and the Angels'. However, we find out in this episode that Kaworu has been sent by [[Seele]]. Exactly what is the relationship be between them? We know that Seele’s goals are [[Third Impact]] and [[Human Instrumentality Project|Instrumentality]], but how does their plan involve Kaworu? Why was Kaworu was sent to [[Nerv]] by Seele? We are shown only one meeting between them, at the lake that was created when Eva-00 self- destructed.<br />
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===''Seele Plots''===<br />
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First however, we see Seele discussing [[Gendo Ikari|Gendo]] among themselves:<br />
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'''SEELE ??:''' "Nerv, the organization formed to be Seele's executive branch..." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "It was created in order to put our scenario into practice." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "But now, it has become an organization in the possession of one individual." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "Precisely, we must take it back." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "Before the promised day." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "Nerv and the Eva series must be in their true forms. Ikari, you will bear the responsibility of your malfeasance towards Seele." <br><br />
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Seele seems very upset at Gendo in this bit of dialogue. Mainly because they feel he’s betrayed them and taken over Nerv. Keel’s first sentence has to do with their plans for 3rd Impact, while the last ones seems to imply they have a plan to get back at Gendo. <br />
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===''The Lake Conversation''===<br />
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Next, Kaworu's conversation with Seele:<br />
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'''KAWORU:''' "Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "But there is one man who is trying to obtain power equal to that of God." <br><br />
'''SEELE 12:''' "There is a man, who is not one of us, attempting to open Pandora's Box once again." <br><br />
'''SEELE 04:''' "There is a man trying to close the box before the hope at the bottom appears." <br><br />
'''KAWORU:''' "Hope? You're saying that is the Lilim's hope?" <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "Hope exists in as many forms as there are people." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "And that is because hope only exists in the hearts of people." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "However, our hope is becoming substantiated." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "That is Lilith, the progenitor of mankind who are the false successors from the Black Moon." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "And Adam, the progenitor of the Angels who are the true successors from the lost White Moon." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??:''' "His salvaged soul exists only within you." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "However, his resurrected body already exists within Ikari." <br><br />
'''KAWORU:''' "Shinji's father... So, he is also the same as me." <br><br />
'''KEEL:''' "That is why we entrust you with our wish." <br><br />
'''KAWORU:''' "I know. That's why I'm here now after all." <br />
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(Misato is shown to be spying on Kaworu)<br />
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'''MISATO:''' "It's no good. I can't read his lips from here. But he certainly is a shady character, going out for a walk so early in the morning to talk to himself. He noticed me? No, it's not possible." <br><br />
'''KAWORU:''' "All will be as the Lilin direct it." <br />
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This scene was not in the original version of [[Episode 24]] but was added in the [[Director's Cut Episodes|Director's Cut]] version, which is now considered canon. This is important because it's obvious Anno added this scene to tell us something (or several things). So what exactly are we seeing in this scene, and why can Misato see Kaworu ,but not Seele? One proposed explanation for Misato's confusion is that the conversation is a type of metaphysical flashback to an earlier conversation between Kaworu and Seele, thus Seele isn't actually there for Misato to see them. It is also possible that Seele and Kaworu are capable of conversing with each other without being present in the same place. Thus the conversation is taking place in real time, but Kaworu is the only participant present for Misato to see. <br />
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Whether flashback or realtime, they seem to be referring to their intentions and plans for Kaworu, and he seems to understand what they are saying. Thus this is likely not the first time they've discussed this. This scene also further illustrates Seele's growing frustration with Gendo. In it, they reveal to Kaworu that his (Adam's) resurrected body exists within Gendo. They also express their knowledge of the fact that Lilim are the false successors to the Earth from [[Lilith]] and the [[Black Moon]], and the Angels/Adam are the true successors from the [[White Moon]]. What is this telling us? They're expressing to Kaworu their hope here, but what is their hope? We know their ultimate goal, and that it is different than that of the Angels, so there is a very strong possibility that they are being deliberately deceptive, i.e. they are using Kaworu to achieve their goal while pretending to support that of the Angels.<br />
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It should also be noted that there are fifteen Seele Monoliths in this scene instead of the usual twelve. It has been theorized that this means that this is not really Seele, but is actually the ghosts of the dead Angels. This theory doesn't seem to hold up under examination, however. At this point in the series, the dead Angels only add up to fifteen if [[Israfel]] is counted as two Angels; no canon source does so, thus there should have only been fourteen. Also, from where would the Angels have derived their information on Gendo? Why would they appear to Kaworu as Seele? The conversation seems to only make sense in the context of Seele giving Kaworu a false mission. Thus it is likely that not all of Seele had appeared until this point.<br />
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==Kaworu & Shinji==<br />
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In Episode 24, we see Kaworu approach and befriend Shinji. Their first meeting is outside of Nerv, where they introduce themselves, and they also have two subsequent conversations before their final confrontation. But, why does Kaworu contact Shinji? Two possible explanations are: <br />
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*This was part of Seele’s plans. <br />
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*Kaworu contacted Shinji for reasons of his own, or even out of simple curiosity. <br />
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We know that Kaworu was sent to Nerv for some purpose, but we don't know exactly what that was. One possibility is that Seele had some plan for Shinji, or for his Eva. Thus they might have wanted Kaworu to do something for them that involved Shinji and/or Eva-01. For instance, they might have planned for Kaworu to be killed by Shinji after befriending him. Why would they want this? This idea is given some credence in EOE, in which Seele was seemingly relying on Shinji’s will to die, known as Thanatos, to initiate Third Impact. However, this seems to be precluded by the fact that the soldiers who attack Nerv in EOE have orders to kill all the pilots, including Shinji. Also, Seele seems to be "winging it" by that point. <br />
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Another way to read Seele's intent in sending Kaworu is that they simply sent him to die, possibly because all the Angels had to die before they could execute their version of third impact. This seems to be supported by Seele's dialogue as Kaworu begins his attack:<br />
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'''SEELE 02''': "Humans forget their foolishness and repeat their mistakes." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??''': "If humans do not redeem themselves willingly, they will not change." <br><br />
'''SEELE ??''': "We will not rely on the powers of Adam or the Angels." <br><br />
'''KEEL''': "Our only choice is to make changes with our own hands for the future. I will be praying that Unit 01 will accomplish its task." <br><br />
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These lines reveal that Seele plans on initiating Third Impact themselves, and that they hope that Unit-01 stops Kaworu. This would seem then to be the better explanation of why they sent Kaworu, but it does nothing to explain why Kaworu approached Shinji.<br />
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Thus the second possibility, Kaworu was acting on his own when he approached Shinji, seems more plausible. <br />
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==The Kaworu/Shinji Conversations==<br />
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Here are the conversation scenes between Kaworu and Shinji: <br />
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===''The First Contact''===<br />
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'''SHINJI''' (MONO): Everyone, including Toji and Kensuke, lost their homes and left. My friends... I don't have anyone I can call a friend anymore. There's no one. I can't go see Ayanami. I don't have the courage for it. I don't know how I'm supposed to face her. Asuka, Miss Misato, Mother... What should I... What should I do? <br><br />
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''Hears someone humming '''Ode to Joy''''' <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Singing is great. Singing enriches the soul. It's the crowning achievement of the civilization that the Lilin created. Don't you feel the same? Shinji Ikari?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "My name..." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Everyone knows your name. I don't mean to be rude, but I think you should be a little more aware of your position." <ref>This is very similar to something Kaji says to Shinji during their first conversation in [[Episode 08#Quotes|Episode 08]].</ref> <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "You think so? Who are you?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "I'm Kaworu, Kaworu Nagisa. One of the children that's part of the design, just like you.<br />
I'm the Fifth Children." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "The Fifth Children? You are? Nagisa?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "You can just call me Kaworu, Ikari." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "You can call me Shinji too." <br><br />
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This scene establishes that Shinji has become a true lost soul, with no one to turn to. Suddenly and unexpectedly he has a new friend!<br />
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===''In the Bath''===<br />
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'''ANNOUNCEMENT''': "Central Dogma is currently open. Please use Route 3 to transfer." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Hi, were you waiting for me?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "No, not really. That's not what I was..." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "What are you doing today?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Well, the regular tests are over, so all I have left is to take a shower and go home, but... But the truth is, lately, I don't really want to go home." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "A place to return to...The fact that you have a home will lead to your happiness. It's a very good thing." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "You think so?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "I'd like to talk more with you. May I come with you? To take a shower. You still need to go take one, right?" <br><br />
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'''Shinji''': "..." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Is that a no?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Oh, no, that's not what I meant." <br><br />
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'''Kaworu''': "You go to such extremes to avoid first contact. Are you afraid of connecting with other people? If you don't get close to others, you'll never be betrayed and you'll never hurt each other. But you'll also never be able to forget your loneliness. Humans can never banish their loneliness for good, because being human means being alone. But humans are able to go on with their lives because they're able to forget it every so often." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "It's time." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Is it over already?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Yeah, we better go to bed." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Together?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Oh, no! I think there's probably a room ready for you. A separate one." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "I see. Humans constantly feel pain in their hearts. Because the heart is so sensitive to pain, humans also feel that to live is to suffer. You're so delicate, like glass, especially your heart." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Me?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Yes, you have my regard for it." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Regard?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "It means, I love you." <br><br />
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Because Kaworu is actually Adam, he does not understand the Lilin, which likely explains his ruminations here. The Earth was supposed to be for him and the Angels, but Lilin dominate the earth. Kaworu has an obligation to The Angels, his children, to give them a home. Yet given this exchange and the dialogue later in the episode where Kaworu seems to be having a moral dilemma about killing the Lilin, he has begun to feel pity for them, considering how weak they are. . <br />
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His line of "it means, I love you" was important to Shinji, who had nobody to turn to at this point. Kaworu was the first person to openly express love for him, and that meant the world to Shinji, who was hopelessly lost.<br />
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===''The Sleepover''===<br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Come on, I'll sleep on the floor." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "It's okay. You're the one who's doing me a favor by letting me stay over. I'm fine where I am." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "What do you want to talk about? There are things you want me to hear, right?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "All sorts of things have happened since I came here. Before coming here, I used to live with my teacher. The days were peaceful. Nothing ever happened. I only had to exist there. But that was okay, because there was nothing I had to do." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Did you hate people?" <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Not really, I think it didn't matter, one way or another. But I did hate my father." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI (MONO)''': Why am I telling Kaworu all this? <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Maybe I was born so that I would meet you." <br><br />
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Kaworu seems both genuinely interested in Shinji’s plight, as well as that of the Lilin. The last line is likely directly related to his decision to be killed at the end of the episode. It seems that Kaworu sought out Shinji to gain insight into the Lilin species, and that the knowledge he gained lead him to the decision he made.<br />
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==The Finale==<br />
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The finale of 24’ occurs from the moment Kaworu hijacks Evangelion Unit-02 to his death at the hands of Shinji and Eva-01. Because of the sheer amount of content much of the dialogue will be broken down. <br />
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===''Panic on the Bridge''===<br />
Kaworu has hijacked Unit-02 and is heading towards Terminal Dogma. Those at Nerv are frantically trying to figure out what's going on. The scanners pick up an AT Field developing, and the scanner reads Kaworu as an Angel, finally revealing his true identity. <br />
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'''FUYUTSUKI''': "I never imagined Seele would send one directly to us." <br><br />
'''IKARI''': "The old men intend to step up the schedule by forcing our hand." <br><br />
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Gendo seems to believe Seele sent the Angel directly to them to force them into some sort of action that would speed Seele's agenda. The most likely interpretation of this line would be that Seele was impatient for the start of Instrumentality, and were therefore forcing him to destroy the final Angel, a necessity for Instrumentality, before he was ready to do so.<br />
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'''MISATO (OFF)''': "But why did the Angel take Unit 02?" <br><br />
'''FUYUTSUKI''': "Could it be planning to merge with Unit 02?" <br><br />
'''IKARI''': "Or possibly to bring about destruction." <br><br />
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But apparently Kaworu cant merge with Eva-02. (See his dialogue below.)<br />
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===''Shinji, Kaworu and Rei''===<br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Shinji's so late." <br><br />
'''MAN (OFF)''': "Eva Unit 01 heading down Route 2! In pursuit of target!" <br><br />
'''SHINJI''': "You betrayed me! You betrayed my feelings! You betrayed me, just like Father did!" <br><br />
'''KAWORU''': "I've been waiting for you, Shinji." <br><br />
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Kaworu wouldn't have waited for Shinji if he intended to wipe out mankind. It’s possible even at this late point Kaworu was not yet sure what he was going to do. His following ruminations seem to imply that he was waiting for Shinji to help him make his final decision, if even in an indirect manner. <br />
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'''KAWORU''': "The Eva series. Born from Adam, they are an abhorrent existence for humans. And the Lilin will even use them in order to survive. I can't understand." <br><br />
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Kaworu here reveals the Evas true nature. He doesn't understand why humans would use the very things that tried to destroy them in Second Impact in order to survive. <br />
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'''KAWORU''': "The Evas are made of the same body as I am. Because I am born from Adam as well. I could merge with them, if only they didn't have souls. Unit 02's soul has shut itself away for now." <br><br />
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Shinji strikes at Kaworu but is blocked. Kaworu then tells Shinji of the true nature of the A.T. Field:<br />
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'''SHINJI''': "An AT Field!" <br><br />
'''KAWORU''': "That's right. That's what you Lilin call it. The sacred domain where none may trespass. The light of the soul. Lilin, you know, don't you? That the AT Field is the wall that everyone has in their heart?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU (MONO)''': The fate of man... The hope of man is written in sorrow. <br><br />
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'''HYUGA''': "It's an AT Field!" <br><br />
'''AOBA''': "The same kind of AT Field that we saw earlier has developed near the barrier around Terminal Dogma!" <br><br />
'''IBUKI''': "It's entering the barrier! <br><br />
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'''MISATO''': "Disappeared?! The Angel did?!" <br><br />
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===''Kaworu's Epiphany''===<br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Adam, our mother. Must all who were born of Adam return to Adam? Even at the cost of destroying humanity? No! This is... Lilith? I see, so that's what this is about, Lilin." <br><br />
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However, this brings us to one of the most curious and debated moments in the series. As originally broadcast, the episode did not include the "lake conversation" between Seele and Kaworu. Kaworu thus seemed to have genuinely confused Adam and Lilith. However, with the addition of the lake scene, Kaworu knows that Adam has become part of Gendo. Why would he also think that this was Adam on the cross?<br />
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One possibility is that this is simply a continuity error, and that they somehow didn't notice the contradiction. This, however, doesn't seem very likely. In [[Episode 15]] we were told the being in Terminal Dogma was Adam; that it is actually Lilith is the central revelation of Episode 24. It seems very unlikely that they would just forget about this scene when they wrote the new material. <ref>If Kaworu is actually confused about something he had been explicitly told it wouldn't be the first time that happened in this episode. Misato seems surprised that Kaworu is an Angel despite having already been told this by Ritsuko.</ref><br />
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This is a little better than the "continuity error" theory, but there remains another tantalizing possibility. Perhaps Kaworu was playing to an audience. We have already been shown that Rei is witnessing this scene. At the end of the scene Kaworu acknowledges her presence by looking directly at her . We've also been shown earlier in the episode that Kaworu has trying to give Rei clues about her identity:<br />
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'''KAWORU''': "You're the First Child, aren't you? Rei Ayanami... <br />
You're the same as me. So, both of us ended up in the same form as the Lilin <br />
while we inhabit this planet." <br><br />
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'''REI''': "Who are you?" <br><br />
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Thus it is a very real possibility that Kaworu did, in fact know all along that he was seeing Lilith, and was playacting at being surprised because he wanted to tell Rei "this is Lilith". This has been dubbed the "Casablanca Theory" <ref>After the famous scene where Claude Rains, as Captain Renault, who has been ordered to find a pretext for shutting down Rick's Cafe, denounces Rick for conducting gambling while collecting his winnings. <br />
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'''Capt. Renault''': "I'm shocked Rick, shocked to find gambling going on here!" <br><br />
'''Purser''': "Your winnings, sir." </ref> because Kaworu is apparently expressing false surprise. <br />
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====''A Smile of Betrayal''====<br />
However, it should be noted that in the [[Full OP|Full Opening]] this smile is captioned ''"uragiri no hohoemi"'': ''"a smile of betrayal"''. This caption was written by Anno<ref>OP CREW page on the Renewal "01 TEST-TYPE" DVD. Anno is listed under テロップ協カ (Teroppu kyouryoku), or "caption cooperation/collaboration".</ref> , thus it should be considered powerful Second Tier Cannon, but it seems to muddy the waters even more. Just who is being betrayed here? It's Rei that he's smiling at, but it's hard to think of a way that he is betraying her.<br />
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Some possibilities:<br />
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*Kaworu is betraying Shinji by deliberately trying to break his spirit. This would seem to support the notion that Seele sent Kaworu to make shinji receptive to starting Third Impact. But once again, this seems to ruled out by the fact that the soldiers in EOE had orders to kill all the pilots, including Shinji.<br />
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*Kaworu is betraying Seele by deliberately failing at his mission. That is, he was ''supposed'' to contact Lilith. According to the [[Classified Information (Translation)#Angel|Classified Information]] this would reset all life, as opposed to the disastrous reset plus an "Adam based ecosystem" that would result if an Angel succeeded in reviving Adam. <ref>See [[Classified Information (Translation)#Second Impact|the Classified Information]] for more details.</ref>. Perhaps this "Lilith-based reset" is what Seele wanted, and now that all the other Angels were dead it was safe to carry out their plan. Once again however, this seems to be refuted by Seele themselves hoping that Eva-01 stops Kaworu. <br />
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*The remaining possibility that easily comes to mind is that Kaworu is betraying his fellow Angels by dying and denying them the chance to seize the Earth from the Lilin, but it's hard to understand how he could possibly communicate this to Rei with a smile.<br />
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Thus exactly what Anno was getting at with the reference to "a smile of betrayal" is not known.<br />
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===''Erase me from this World''=== <br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Thank you, Shinji. I wanted you to stop Unit 02. Otherwise, I may have gone on living with her." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "Kaworu, why?" <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Because it's my destiny to continue to live even if it may result in the destruction of humanity. But I can also die here. Life and death are of equal value to me. Dying of your own will. That is the one and only absolute freedom there is." <br><br />
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'''SHINJI''': "What? Kaworu, I don't understand what you're saying! Kaworu..." <br><br />
<br />
'''KAWORU''': "My last will and testament. Now, erase me from this world. If you don't, you will be the ones who are erased. Only one life form will be chosen to survive the time of destruction and be given a future. And you are not a being who should die. Your people need the future." <br><br />
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'''KAWORU''': "Thank you. I'm glad I met you." <br><br />
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It is here that he looks knowingly in Rei's direction.<br />
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So Kaworu decided to sacrifice his own life to save the Lilin. In fact, it seems that he had to die so that Lilith's progeny could live. <br />
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"''Now, erase me from this world. If you don't, you will be the ones who are erased.'' "<br />
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This seems to indicate that Kaworu couldn't just abandon his mission or switch sides. If Shinji chooses not to kill him, his Angelic instinct will compel him to contact Lilith, which is apparently just as bad as if it were Adam. <ref>See [[Classified Information (Translation)#Angel|the Classified Information]] for more details.</ref><br />
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Kaworu's choice likely came from his meeting with Shinji, which made him realize that the Lilin needed the Earth more.<br />
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==References==<br />
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{{reflist}}<br />
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<div>[[Image:07 C178 ohshi.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Jet Alone.]]<br />
<br />
'''Jet Alone''' is a bipedal robot developed by Japan Heavy Chemical Industries, designed to supplant the [[Evangelions]]. Unlike the [[Evangelions]], which have a limited internal power supply and must rely on external power cables for extended operation, Jet Alone has an internal nuclear reactor (likely a pressurised water reactor) and can function for at least 150 consecutive days. Jet Alone also requires no pilot, and is controlled by an onboard computer. Radio commands can be issued from a ground station. <br />
Being a robot and not a living being, Jet Alone cannot generate an [[A.T. Field]]. [[Shiro Tokita]] pushes aside the issue, describing the creation of an (artificial) A.T. Field as ''"only a matter of time."''<br />
<br />
Jet Alone is seen in [[Episode 07]], when it goes out of control during a demonstration. It is stopped after [[Misato Katsuragi]] climbs on-board with the help of [[Evangelion Unit-01]] and attempts to delete its programming, but Jet alone is saved from a emmient nuclear meltdown at the last moment.[[Gendo Ikari]] states towards the end of Episode 07 that everything went according to plan, suggesting that Nerv was behind the incident. <br />
<br />
<br />
[[Neon Genesis Evangelion 2]] features a re-design of Jet Alone, dubbed JA Prime (JA'), by Eva mecha designer [[Ikuto Yamashita]].<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
<br />
[[Image:Jetjaguar.jpg|thumb|100px|left|Jet Jaguar.]]<br />
<br />
Jet Alone was named after Jet Jaguar, Godzilla's robot sidekick from ''Godzilla vs. Megalon''. <ref>From the [[Renewal of Evangelion|Renewal]] liner notes: The name of JA comes from the robot, Jet Jaguar, which appeared in the special effects film Gozilla vs Megalon (1973). Jet Jaguar was a robot whose design was chosen from submissions from the public, and when it was initially announced, its name was Red Alone. Jet Alone is a name made by combining Red Alone and Jet Jaguar.</ref> <br />
<br />
==Analysis==<br />
Exactly why Nerv saw Jet Alone as a threat is not made clear. Gendo needed the Angels destroyed in order to carry out his version of [[Third Impact]]. It is likely he was concerned that vital funding would be diverted from his division to the Jet Alone program if the demonstration proved a success, or that Jet Alone would, at some point, be used against Nerv.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
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<div>[[Image:07 C178 ohshi.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Jet Alone.]]<br />
<br />
'''Jet Alone''' is a bipedal robot developed by Japan Heavy Chemical Industries, designed to supplant the [[Evangelions]]. Unlike the [[Evangelions]], which have a limited internal power supply and must rely on external power cables for extended operation, Jet Alone has an internal nuclear reactor (likely a pressurised water reactor) and can function for at least 150 consecutive days. Jet Alone also requires no pilot, and is controlled by an onboard computer. Radio commands can be issued from a ground station. <br />
Being a robot and not a living being, Jet Alone cannot generate an [[A.T. Field]]. [[Shiro Tokita]] pushes aside the issue, describing the creation of an (artificial) A.T. Field as ''"only a matter of time."''<br />
<br />
Jet Alone is seen in [[Episode 07]], when it goes out of control during a demonstration. It is stopped after [[Misato Katsuragi]] climbs on-board with the help of [[Evangelion Unit-01]] and attempts to delete its programming, but Jet alone is saved from a emmient nuclear meltdown at the last moment by someone other than Misato. [[Gendo Ikari]] states towards the end of Episode 07 that everything went according to plan, suggesting that Nerv was behind the incident. <br />
<br />
<br />
[[Neon Genesis Evangelion 2]] features a re-design of Jet Alone, dubbed JA Prime (JA'), by Eva mecha designer [[Ikuto Yamashita]].<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
<br />
[[Image:Jetjaguar.jpg|thumb|100px|left|Jet Jaguar.]]<br />
<br />
Jet Alone was named after Jet Jaguar, Godzilla's robot sidekick from ''Godzilla vs. Megalon''. <ref>From the [[Renewal of Evangelion|Renewal]] liner notes: The name of JA comes from the robot, Jet Jaguar, which appeared in the special effects film Gozilla vs Megalon (1973). Jet Jaguar was a robot whose design was chosen from submissions from the public, and when it was initially announced, its name was Red Alone. Jet Alone is a name made by combining Red Alone and Jet Jaguar.</ref> <br />
<br />
==Analysis==<br />
Exactly why Nerv saw Jet Alone as a threat is not made clear. Gendo needed the Angels destroyed in order to carry out his version of [[Third Impact]]. It is likely he was concerned that vital funding would be diverted from his division to the Jet Alone program if the demonstration proved a success, or that Jet Alone would, at some point, be used against Nerv.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
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<div>[[Image:07 C178 ohshi.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Jet Alone.]]<br />
<br />
'''Jet Alone''' is a bipedal robot developed by Japan Heavy Chemical Industries, designed to supplant the [[Evangelions]]. Unlike the [[Evangelions]], which have a limited internal power supply and must rely on external power cables for extended operation, Jet Alone has an internal nuclear reactor (likely a pressurised water reactor) and can function for at least 150 consecutive days. Jet Alone also requires no pilot, and is controlled by an onboard computer. Radio commands can be issued from a ground station. <br />
Being a robot and not a living being, Jet Alone cannot generate an [[A.T. Field]]. [[Shiro Tokita]] pushes aside the issue, describing the creation of an (artificial) A.T. Field as ''"only a matter of time."''<br />
<br />
Jet Alone is seen in [[Episode 07]], when it goes out of control during a demonstration. It is stopped after [[Misato Katsuragi]] climbs on-board with the help of [[Evangelion Unit-01]] and attempts to delete its programming, but Jet alone is saved from a emmient nuclear meltdown at the last moment by something or someone unknown to Misato. [[Gendo Ikari]] states towards the end of Episode 07 that everything went according to plan, suggesting that Nerv was behind the incident. <br />
<br />
<br />
[[Neon Genesis Evangelion 2]] features a re-design of Jet Alone, dubbed JA Prime (JA'), by Eva mecha designer [[Ikuto Yamashita]].<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
<br />
[[Image:Jetjaguar.jpg|thumb|100px|left|Jet Jaguar.]]<br />
<br />
Jet Alone was named after Jet Jaguar, Godzilla's robot sidekick from ''Godzilla vs. Megalon''. <ref>From the [[Renewal of Evangelion|Renewal]] liner notes: The name of JA comes from the robot, Jet Jaguar, which appeared in the special effects film Gozilla vs Megalon (1973). Jet Jaguar was a robot whose design was chosen from submissions from the public, and when it was initially announced, its name was Red Alone. Jet Alone is a name made by combining Red Alone and Jet Jaguar.</ref> <br />
<br />
==Analysis==<br />
Exactly why Nerv saw Jet Alone as a threat is not made clear. Gendo needed the Angels destroyed in order to carry out his version of [[Third Impact]]. It is likely he was concerned that vital funding would be diverted from his division to the Jet Alone program if the demonstration proved a success, or that Jet Alone would, at some point, be used against Nerv.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
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<div>{{Character Infobox<br />
| name_r = Shiro Tokita<br />
| name_k = ???<br />
| age = Unknown<br />
| birthday = Unknown<br />
| seiyu = Yoshitada Otsuka<br />
| va = (English): Rob Bundy<br><br />
}}<br />
'''Shiro Tokita''' is the executive of a private company who gives a demonstration of the ill-fated [[Jet Alone]] project seen in [[Episode 07]]. He believes that a nuclear-powered robot has a better chance in battle than robots that causes mental instability in its pilots. Unfortunately, Jet Alone's nuclear core overheats and Misato steps in to prevent a complete nuclear meltdown. The entire incident is strongly suggested to be sabotaged by NERV as a scene with Ritsuko and Gendo shows at the end of Episode 07.<br />
<br />
After Episode 07, Shiro does not make another appearance in the series and it is unknown what fate befalls him. <br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
# Tokita is sometimes referred to as "JA (Jet Alone) guy" due to the fact that is name is unknown to many fans.<br />
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<div>[[Image:07 C178 ohshi.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Jet Alone.]]<br />
<br />
'''Jet Alone''' is a bipedal robot developed by Japan Heavy Chemical Industries, designed to supplant the [[Evangelions]]. Unlike the [[Evangelions]], which have a limited internal power supply and must rely on external power cables for extended operation, Jet Alone has an internal nuclear reactor (likely a pressurised water reactor) and can function for at least 150 consecutive days. Jet Alone also requires no pilot, and is controlled by an onboard computer. Radio commands can be issued from a ground station. <br />
Being a robot and not a living being, Jet Alone cannot generate an [[A.T. Field]]. [[Shiro Tokita]] pushes aside the issue, describing the creation of an (artificial) A.T. Field as ''"only a matter of time."''<br />
<br />
Jet Alone is seen in [[Episode 07]], when it goes out of control during a demonstration. It is stopped after [[Misato Katsuragi]] climbs on-board with the help of [[Evangelion Unit-01]] and attempts to delete its programming, but Jet alone is saved from a emmient nuclear meltdown at the last moment by someone/something unknown to Misato. [[Gendo Ikari]] states towards the end of Episode 07 that everything went according to plan, suggesting that Nerv was behind the incident. <br />
<br />
<br />
[[Neon Genesis Evangelion 2]] features a re-design of Jet Alone, dubbed JA Prime (JA'), by Eva mecha designer [[Ikuto Yamashita]].<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
<br />
[[Image:Jetjaguar.jpg|thumb|100px|left|Jet Jaguar.]]<br />
<br />
Jet Alone was named after Jet Jaguar, Godzilla's robot sidekick from ''Godzilla vs. Megalon''. <ref>From the [[Renewal of Evangelion|Renewal]] liner notes: The name of JA comes from the robot, Jet Jaguar, which appeared in the special effects film Gozilla vs Megalon (1973). Jet Jaguar was a robot whose design was chosen from submissions from the public, and when it was initially announced, its name was Red Alone. Jet Alone is a name made by combining Red Alone and Jet Jaguar.</ref> <br />
<br />
==Analysis==<br />
Exactly why Nerv saw Jet Alone as a threat is not made clear. Gendo needed the Angels destroyed in order to carry out his version of [[Third Impact]]. It is likely he was concerned that vital funding would be diverted from his division to the Jet Alone program if the demonstration proved a success, or that Jet Alone would, at some point, be used against Nerv.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:A to Z]]</div>ReiAyanami25https://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=Jet_Alone&diff=70349Jet Alone2011-11-22T03:57:40Z<p>ReiAyanami25: </p>
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<div>[[Image:07 C178 ohshi.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Jet Alone.]]<br />
<br />
'''Jet Alone''' is a bipedal robot developed by Japan Heavy Chemical Industries, designed to supplant the [[Evangelions]]. Unlike the [[Evangelions]], which have a limited internal power supply and must rely on external power cables for extended operation, Jet Alone has an internal nuclear reactor (likely a pressurised water reactor) and can function for at least 150 consecutive days. Jet Alone also requires no pilot, and is controlled by an onboard computer. Radio commands can be issued from a ground station. <br />
Being a robot and not a living being, Jet Alone cannot generate an [[A.T. Field]]. [[Shiro Tokita]] pushes aside the issue, describing the creation of an (artificial) A.T. Field as ''"only a matter of time."''<br />
<br />
Jet Alone is seen in [[Episode 07]], when it goes out of control during a demonstration. It is stopped after [[Misato Katsuragi]] climbs on-board with the help of [[Evangelion Unit-01]] and attempts to delete its programming, but Jet alone is saved from a emmient nuclear meltdown at the last moment. [[Gendo Ikari]] states towards the end of Episode 07 that everything went according to plan, suggesting that Nerv was behind the incident. <br />
<br />
<br />
[[Neon Genesis Evangelion 2]] features a re-design of Jet Alone, dubbed JA Prime (JA'), by Eva mecha designer [[Ikuto Yamashita]].<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
<br />
[[Image:Jetjaguar.jpg|thumb|100px|left|Jet Jaguar.]]<br />
<br />
Jet Alone was named after Jet Jaguar, Godzilla's robot sidekick from ''Godzilla vs. Megalon''. <ref>From the [[Renewal of Evangelion|Renewal]] liner notes: The name of JA comes from the robot, Jet Jaguar, which appeared in the special effects film Gozilla vs Megalon (1973). Jet Jaguar was a robot whose design was chosen from submissions from the public, and when it was initially announced, its name was Red Alone. Jet Alone is a name made by combining Red Alone and Jet Jaguar.</ref> <br />
<br />
==Analysis==<br />
Exactly why Nerv saw Jet Alone as a threat is not made clear. Gendo needed the Angels destroyed in order to carry out his version of [[Third Impact]]. It is likely he was concerned that vital funding would be diverted from his division to the Jet Alone program if the demonstration proved a success, or that Jet Alone would, at some point, be used against Nerv.<br />
<br />
==References==<br />
{{reflist}}<br />
<br />
[[Category:Weapons]]<br />
[[Category:A to Z]]</div>ReiAyanami25https://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=Talk:Jet_Alone&diff=70348Talk:Jet Alone2011-11-21T23:45:13Z<p>ReiAyanami25: </p>
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<div>Curious: Does Jet Alone really need its own page, or could it possibly be fused into a "Mecha" page covering Jet Alone, Jet Alone II, and the Land Cruiser(s)? --[[User:Reichu|Reichu]] 20:11, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:We could change the name of Extracanonical Mecha to "Other Mecha" and include JA, JA2 and the Land Cruisers. Even without the name change, we could use the old page as a redirect page and place a note- "Jet Alone is unique in being the only true robot that is canonical- the rest of the mecha on this page are not". --[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 22:11, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::The idea occurred to me that maybe we ought not to lump Evas, Angels, and robots onto a [[Extracanonical Mecha|single page]] after all, hence the motion to make a common Mecha or Robots page for the things that aren't Evas and Angels, and perhaps split the remaining page into Extracanonical Evas and Extracanonical Angels (with the hope that more info will get added to both). --[[User:Reichu|Reichu]] 22:17, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:::I like Reichu's idea better, because it avoids the need of noobish "true robot" disclaimers. Evas and Angels have their own categories ready. "Robots" should probably go to the weapons category (or perhaps we should have a more general "technology" category?). --[[User:Dr. Nick|Dr. Nick]] 00:04, 14 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::::"Weapons" is mostly for Eva and JSSDF/UN conventional weaponry, isn't it? JA and the Tridents are more complex than that. Perhaps we should have a "Non-biological mecha" category, with Evas and Angels being biological mecha? I admit that "Extracanonical Biological Mecha" would be a long page title, however.--[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 03:46, 14 June 2008 (PDT) <br />
<br />
Wait....so it gets "basic commands" from the base, but then carries them out on its own?--[[User:V|V]] 20:44, 10 February 2008 (PST)<br />
<br />
I think it needs a page to itself, but the text needs to have more content, as there is relevant information that is not included in the article. I believe more pictures would be useful. We also need to mention who defeated it and how, and mention the episode it appears in by the use of a hotlink. (are the words that are highlighted blue that link to other pages called hotlinks?). --[[User:ReiAyanami25|ReiAyanami25]] 11:42, 22 November 2011 <br />
<br />
== Allusions ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote>Ikuhara Industries (in the Jet Alone joint venture) are an homage to Kunihiko Ikuhara, director of some Sailor Moon seasons and tv specials, a close friend of Anno.</blockquote><br />
<br />
http://eva.onegeek.org/pipermail/oldeva/1999-June/029659.html --[[User:Gwern|Gwern]] 21:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)</div>ReiAyanami25https://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=Talk:Jet_Alone&diff=70347Talk:Jet Alone2011-11-21T22:56:09Z<p>ReiAyanami25: </p>
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<div>Curious: Does Jet Alone really need its own page, or could it possibly be fused into a "Mecha" page covering Jet Alone, Jet Alone II, and the Land Cruiser(s)? --[[User:Reichu|Reichu]] 20:11, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:We could change the name of Extracanonical Mecha to "Other Mecha" and include JA, JA2 and the Land Cruisers. Even without the name change, we could use the old page as a redirect page and place a note- "Jet Alone is unique in being the only true robot that is canonical- the rest of the mecha on this page are not". --[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 22:11, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::The idea occurred to me that maybe we ought not to lump Evas, Angels, and robots onto a [[Extracanonical Mecha|single page]] after all, hence the motion to make a common Mecha or Robots page for the things that aren't Evas and Angels, and perhaps split the remaining page into Extracanonical Evas and Extracanonical Angels (with the hope that more info will get added to both). --[[User:Reichu|Reichu]] 22:17, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:::I like Reichu's idea better, because it avoids the need of noobish "true robot" disclaimers. Evas and Angels have their own categories ready. "Robots" should probably go to the weapons category (or perhaps we should have a more general "technology" category?). --[[User:Dr. Nick|Dr. Nick]] 00:04, 14 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::::"Weapons" is mostly for Eva and JSSDF/UN conventional weaponry, isn't it? JA and the Tridents are more complex than that. Perhaps we should have a "Non-biological mecha" category, with Evas and Angels being biological mecha? I admit that "Extracanonical Biological Mecha" would be a long page title, however.--[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 03:46, 14 June 2008 (PDT) <br />
<br />
Wait....so it gets "basic commands" from the base, but then carries them out on its own?--[[User:V|V]] 20:44, 10 February 2008 (PST)<br />
<br />
I think it needs a page to itself, but the text needs to have more content, as there is relevant information that is not included in the article. I believe more pictures would be useful. We also need to mention who defeated it and how, and mention the episode it appears in by the use of a hotlink. (are the words that are highlighted blue that link to other pages called hotlinks?). --[[User:ReiAyanami25|ReiAyanami25]] 11:42, 22 November 2011 (PST)<br />
<br />
== Allusions ==<br />
<br />
<blockquote>Ikuhara Industries (in the Jet Alone joint venture) are an homage to Kunihiko Ikuhara, director of some Sailor Moon seasons and tv specials, a close friend of Anno.</blockquote><br />
<br />
http://eva.onegeek.org/pipermail/oldeva/1999-June/029659.html --[[User:Gwern|Gwern]] 21:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)</div>ReiAyanami25https://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=Talk:Jet_Alone&diff=70346Talk:Jet Alone2011-11-21T22:39:36Z<p>ReiAyanami25: </p>
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<div>Curious: Does Jet Alone really need its own page, or could it possibly be fused into a "Mecha" page covering Jet Alone, Jet Alone II, and the Land Cruiser(s)? --[[User:Reichu|Reichu]] 20:11, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:We could change the name of Extracanonical Mecha to "Other Mecha" and include JA, JA2 and the Land Cruisers. Even without the name change, we could use the old page as a redirect page and place a note- "Jet Alone is unique in being the only true robot that is canonical- the rest of the mecha on this page are not". --[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 22:11, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::The idea occurred to me that maybe we ought not to lump Evas, Angels, and robots onto a [[Extracanonical Mecha|single page]] after all, hence the motion to make a common Mecha or Robots page for the things that aren't Evas and Angels, and perhaps split the remaining page into Extracanonical Evas and Extracanonical Angels (with the hope that more info will get added to both). --[[User:Reichu|Reichu]] 22:17, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
:::I like Reichu's idea better, because it avoids the need of noobish "true robot" disclaimers. Evas and Angels have their own categories ready. "Robots" should probably go to the weapons category (or perhaps we should have a more general "technology" category?). --[[User:Dr. Nick|Dr. Nick]] 00:04, 14 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
<br />
::::"Weapons" is mostly for Eva and JSSDF/UN conventional weaponry, isn't it? JA and the Tridents are more complex than that. Perhaps we should have a "Non-biological mecha" category, with Evas and Angels being biological mecha? I admit that "Extracanonical Biological Mecha" would be a long page title, however.--[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 03:46, 14 June 2008 (PDT) <br />
<br />
Wait....so it gets "basic commands" from the base, but then carries them out on its own?--[[User:V|V]] 20:44, 10 February 2008 (PST)<br />
<br />
I think it needs a page to itself, but the text needs to have more content, as there is relevant information that is not included in the article. I believe more pictures would be useful. We also need to mention who defeated it and how, and mention the episode it appears in by the use of a hotlink. (are the words that are highlighted blue that link to other pages called hotlinks?). --[[User:ReiAyanami25|ReiAyanami25]] 11:42, 22 November 2011 (PST)<br />
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== Allusions ==<br />
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<blockquote>Ikuhara Industries (in the Jet Alone joint venture) are an homage to Kunihiko Ikuhara, director of some Sailor Moon seasons and tv specials, a close friend of Anno.</blockquote><br />
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http://eva.onegeek.org/pipermail/oldeva/1999-June/029659.html --[[User:Gwern|Gwern]] 21:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
I think it needs a page to itself, but the text needs to have more content, as there is relevant information that is not included in the article. I believe more pictures would be useful. We also need to mention who defeated it and how, and mention the episode it appears in by the use of a hotlink. (are the words that are highlighted blue that link to other pages called hotlinks?)</div>ReiAyanami25https://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=Talk:Jet_Alone&diff=70345Talk:Jet Alone2011-11-21T21:35:42Z<p>ReiAyanami25: /* Allusions */</p>
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<div>Curious: Does Jet Alone really need its own page, or could it possibly be fused into a "Mecha" page covering Jet Alone, Jet Alone II, and the Land Cruiser(s)? --[[User:Reichu|Reichu]] 20:11, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:We could change the name of Extracanonical Mecha to "Other Mecha" and include JA, JA2 and the Land Cruisers. Even without the name change, we could use the old page as a redirect page and place a note- "Jet Alone is unique in being the only true robot that is canonical- the rest of the mecha on this page are not". --[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 22:11, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::The idea occurred to me that maybe we ought not to lump Evas, Angels, and robots onto a [[Extracanonical Mecha|single page]] after all, hence the motion to make a common Mecha or Robots page for the things that aren't Evas and Angels, and perhaps split the remaining page into Extracanonical Evas and Extracanonical Angels (with the hope that more info will get added to both). --[[User:Reichu|Reichu]] 22:17, 13 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
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:::I like Reichu's idea better, because it avoids the need of noobish "true robot" disclaimers. Evas and Angels have their own categories ready. "Robots" should probably go to the weapons category (or perhaps we should have a more general "technology" category?). --[[User:Dr. Nick|Dr. Nick]] 00:04, 14 June 2008 (PDT)<br />
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::::"Weapons" is mostly for Eva and JSSDF/UN conventional weaponry, isn't it? JA and the Tridents are more complex than that. Perhaps we should have a "Non-biological mecha" category, with Evas and Angels being biological mecha? I admit that "Extracanonical Biological Mecha" would be a long page title, however.--[[User:UrsusArctos|UrsusArctos]] 03:46, 14 June 2008 (PDT) <br />
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Wait....so it gets "basic commands" from the base, but then carries them out on its own?--[[User:V|V]] 20:44, 10 February 2008 (PST)<br />
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== Allusions ==<br />
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<blockquote>Ikuhara Industries (in the Jet Alone joint venture) are an homage to Kunihiko Ikuhara, director of some Sailor Moon seasons and tv specials, a close friend of Anno.</blockquote><br />
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http://eva.onegeek.org/pipermail/oldeva/1999-June/029659.html --[[User:Gwern|Gwern]] 21:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)<br />
I think it needs a page to itself, but the text needs to have more content, as there is relevant information that is not included in the article. I believe more pictures would be useful. We also need to mention who defeated it and how, and mention the episode it appears in by the use of a hotlink. (are the words that are highlighted blue that link to other pages called hotlinks?)</div>ReiAyanami25