Talk:Anti A.T. Field

First EoE AATF

Jimbo wrote: "...before Third Impact occurs officially, the Mass Production Evangelions use their combined S² Engines in conjunction with Evangelion Unit-01 to create a large Anti A.T. Field which destroys much of the surrounding Tokyo-3 area, revealing Lilith's Egg in its wake."

I think there have probably been forum-stuffs on this before, but can we positively ascribe the XBOX HUEG explosion to something that should, by its very nature, just be busy annihilating A.T. Fields? Also, to make matters more confusing, I think Chronicle considers 3I to have officially started by that point -- which makes sense, I suppose, considering the juxtaposition of data on Maya's laptop -- but I should double-check. --Reichu 20:19, 31 July 2007 (EDT)

The reason I think we have to ascribe the explosion to the AATF is that we have nothing else to call it. Right before the explosion they mention the Anti A.T. Field and then the big boom that uncovers Lilith's Egg. Let's also not forget that even though Adam went boom herself, we're not sure how much damage she caused can be attributed to her explosion compared to the Anti A.T. Field she created.

It would seem to me that if A.T. Fields have the ability to exterminate life, then making things go "boom" is part of that. Whatever it was is essentially wiping out everything surrounding Tokyo-3.

@The second part of your post -- 3I WAS starting, but then GNR interferes. It seems logical (to me), that Third Impact (the one that actually wipes out all existing souls) would not have happened if not for Shinji's destrudo initiating it. Eva Yojimbo

I don't think this is the preferred format for responding on discussion pages. ^_^;; If you can try to edit it to put it under the proper heading, that would be uber-cool.

I'd recommend "playing things safe" for the moment and trying to word things without ascribing one thing to another if it's not entirely straightforward. Know what I mean? As for Third Impact -- for what it's worth, Chronicle's glossary uses the image of the giant, eyeball-looking explosion in that particular entry (though maybe I should translate the caption for lulz). --Reichu 06:46, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

Re:"If you can try to edit it to put it under the proper heading, that would be uber-cool." I don't have clue one what I'm doing so I couldn't if I wanted to. ;)

About "playing it safe": I guess this would be another candidate for a T&A page. It's often hard to differentiate personal theories from facts - especially if you've accepted them long enough, ya know. BTW, how are you guys getting the date/time and all that on here? Eva Yojimbo

I'll write up a formal "Wiki Boot Camp" thing here tonight, but I pointed it out before: type --~~~~ two dashes and four tildes in a row after what you type, it automatically signs your name and dates it. --V 14:42, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

I edited/rearranged things somewhat to fit within the Discussion page format. You add your name and the time by ... V beat me to it; and you can indent your response by... well, check out the colon stuff in the Wiki-code. It makes things read better (though the indenting has the potential to get out of hand eventually).

If you're interested in being the first brave soul to undertake a T&A (uh, huh huh huh, I said "T&A") page, you could perhaps start drafting one up (as a way of getting ideas), and we could initiate a forum discussion about "Theory/Analysis Pages" in general. It would be nice to establish some basic guidelines; that way, we can start creating redlinks for needed pages as they "turn up". --Reichu 14:54, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

I'd definitely like to take on a T&A, but on what subject? Third Impact and what's going on (like we were discussing above) or something else? I'd definitely try to establish some basic guidelines first so I don't get started and have to re-do it. BTW, will the T&A parts go on the same page as what's being discussed or a whole new one? as far as indentions getting out of hand, how about we stick to a limit and then go back to the left? I think 5 or 6 is plenty.

Also, RE this line: "This frees individual souls to be collected into her Egg for Instrumentality." I neither like my original or this edit: both sound off somehow. Perhaps it's the word/term "collected into". Considering what Lilith seems to be doing, would "gathered into" be a better term?--Eva Yojimbo 16:06, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

TO THE LEFT! TO THE LEFT!!!

I'd probably take the T&A issue back to the forum, start a new thread. We can work up from there. As for the sentence -- well, if something is "gathered", it is "being collected" by somebody else, but our English teachers always said that using passive tense is BAD BAD BAD. Considering how early we are in development, I wouldn't fret too much over individual sentences; entire paragraphs are prone to complete facelifts when inspiration strikes. --Reichu 16:31, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

I like the idea bout the T&A thread as well. While "gather" and "collect" are synonyms for each other, the connotations are slightly different (semantics). When you think of a "collection" of something it often implies just that: A stamp collection, a figurine collection - Lilith isn't exactly "collecting" souls in that sense. Gather is defined as "to bring together into one group, collection, or place.", and it also sounds a bit more active.

I'm being really persnickety here, but that comes from writing reviews where I'm always trying to get it "just right"... And my natural critical nature regarding details. I'll change it, and you can veto as you see fit. :)--Eva Yojimbo 16:58, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

Dash or No?

Isn't it spelled "Anti-A.T Field" with a dash? --V 11:33, 31 July 2007 (EDT)

This is unknown, to my knowledge; the only official rendition I have seen is アンチＡ.Ｔ.フィールド (ANCHI A.T. FI-RUDO). I thought the dash was awkward since "A.T. Field" is comprised of two elements -- thus, "Anti-A.T. Field" = "Field that is against A.T.". --Reichu 12:28, 31 July 2007 (EDT)